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Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by ekianjo on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @09:29PM (#9502840)
All good, but why did they not use Mercury to dissolve Gold instead ? It's almost instantaneous, and it used to be commonly used for Gold extraction by the mining industry (until they replaced it for safety reasons by other materials).
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by entee on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @10:22PM (#9502981)
Gold and mercury form an amalgam, so you would still have had something that looks like a big hunk of metal. I suppose you wouldn't have known whose gold that was, but the fact that you had a large chunk of gold-mercury amalgam in the lab would have been not so good.

Edit: Looking at some videos, it appears you could get something that looks like regular mercury. I'm wondering how much mercury you would have needed to solubilize a medal. They may also not have had that much on hand, HCl and nitric acid are way easier to find.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by ekianjo on Thursday May 07, 2015 @03:31AM (#9503723)
> They may also not have had that much on hand, HCl and nitric acid are way easier to find.

At the same time, Mercury use was way more widespread than now in laboratories, so it may have been readily available as well. A number of things were banned or heavily restricted for laboratory use in relatively recent history (80s~90s).

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by ekianjo on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @10:28PM (#9502997)
> Gold and mercury form an amalgam

Sure, but if you have a sufficient amount of mercury, that amalgam will remain invisible to the eye as Mercury is not translucent - and you can just write "mercury" on the flash and you can be sure no-one will dare to touch it.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by vacri on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:51AM (#9503622)
WWII-era soldiers may not have been as fearful of the fun that is mercury as we are today.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by Crito on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:51AM (#9503623)
> you can just write "mercury" on the flash and you can be sure no-one will dare to touch it.

Remember we're talking about 1940. Whoever discovered it might very well take it off the shelf to play with it. ;)

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by ekianjo on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:56AM (#9503635)
Oh, Mercury poisoning has been known for a very, very long time, and certainly well documented since the late 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by modoc on Thursday May 07, 2015 @03:09AM (#9503670)
And yet my parents (both born in the 1960's) both played with beads of mercury on their desks in school on numerous occasions... It was pretty common
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by rwmj on Thursday May 07, 2015 @05:52AM (#9504005)
When I was at school (1980s) the teacher had us line up and put our fingers in a flask of mercury. It was a very peculiar sensation. I probably wouldn't want to repeat that "experiment" today.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by ekianjo on Thursday May 07, 2015 @03:13AM (#9503680)
Sure, I'm not saying the general knowledge of mercury poisoning was commonplace back then, but in the scientific community it was, I believe, well known already.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by pilsetnieks on Thursday May 07, 2015 @04:14AM (#9503825)
It was the Nazi soldier community they were worried about.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by Crito on Thursday May 07, 2015 @03:02PM (#9507451)
Mercury poisoning has been known for some time, however people in the general public knowing or caring about mercury poisoning is a pretty recent phenomenon.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by globuous on Thursday May 07, 2015 @04:06AM (#9503808)
I did not know you could dissolve gold in mercury, pretty cool. After a little research, I found out that the process can also be reversed (obviously, since it's used for gold extraction), like it was with aqua regia to recover the dissolved medals' gold, by simply evaporating the mercury (since it's boiling point is much lower than gold's):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_(chemistry)#Gold_extrac...

http://nevada-outback-gems.com/Reference_pages/Amalgamation....

This however, has to be done in a controlled manner due to the toxicity of mercury, which is also why mercury apparently isn't commonly used to extract gold anymore.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by ekianjo on Thursday May 07, 2015 @04:13AM (#9503822)
> This however, has to be done in a controlled manner due to the toxicity of mercury, which is also why mercury apparently isn't commonly used to extract gold anymore.

Yes, because mercury vapors can directly transfer to your brain once inhaled and cause neurotoxic damage.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by afandian on Thursday May 07, 2015 @05:33AM (#9503973)
> why mercury apparently isn't commonly used to extract gold anymore.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Out of sight out of mind. But maybe not out of your personal electronics.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by lvs on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:03AM (#9503515)
Presumably a yellow liquid is far less conspicuous than a shiny metallic liquid, and both acids are commonly stocked. I think it's easy to forget that obtaining chemicals on short notice was not always easy (especially not in a country that's just been invaded).
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by mrpotes on Thursday May 07, 2015 @09:58AM (#9505053)
You can also dissolve gold in lead, as my great-uncle discovered when he thought he'd hidden his money somewhere safe when a UK Nazi invasion seemed imminent during the second world war...