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Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by eru on Friday April 10, 2015 @11:53AM (#9355118)
Rip says, "Fuck Rows". Sic!

You'd be better off doing Deadlifts only and perhaps add pullups.

Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by tel on Friday April 10, 2015 @12:11PM (#9355252)
Why are rows so bad? I've been doing 5x5 for about a month now and find rows to be what appears to be a good complementary workout.

My gym has bumpers and people do power cleans all the time. Should I consider replacing rows?

Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by Ma8ee on Friday April 10, 2015 @01:22PM (#9355774)
I like that the power cleans add explosiveness to the program. All the other lifts are slow (at least when I do them) and the power cleans make the program a bit more versatile.
Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by tel on Friday April 10, 2015 @02:02PM (#9356017)
I do try to keep lifts explosive as I can, though I can already feel how hard that will be as weight keeps growing.

I think the olympic lifts are really cool, but I feel it'd take significant motive to go off program and include them at least until I top out on 5x5s.

Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by mindcruzer on Friday April 10, 2015 @11:57AM (#9355148)
I agree, but I swear he said that in starting strength.
Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by eru on Monday April 13, 2015 @12:39PM (#9368651)
I heard the profanity on video. (I've read the second edition of Starting Strength, and can't remember reading about rows.)
Re:Ask HN: What are you doing to improve your health? by mindcruzer on Monday April 13, 2015 @08:27PM (#9371376)
I decided to verify that I am not making things up ;)

Starting Strength, 2nd edition:

- There is a whole section on barbell rows in the "Useful Assistance Exercises" chapter. See page 263.

- Barbell row substitution is mentioned in the "Programming" chapter. Page 289, start of 5th paragraph: "People without access to bumper plates may choose to use the barbell row instead of the power clean. This is not a terrible substitution, but be aware of what you're giving up if you do..."

I guess Rip changed his mind?