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Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by mad44 on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @10:51PM (#9066878)
Once in our CS department (not CMU), we had given PhD acceptance to a wrong student (call him Student2) since he carried the same name+surname with the candidate we intended to admit (call him Student1).

Instead of rescinding the acceptance, we let Student2 join. Of course we also admitted Student1 to the department as well.

It turned out that Student2 (the candidate we admitted by mistake) performed much better than Student1. :-)

Regehr notes a similar observation. http://blog.regehr.org/archives/147

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by craigyk on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:51PM (#9067039)
I remember when I was applying to graduate schools I was waiting to go to my last (fourth) recruitment interview, but I was pretty sure I wanted to go to the third school I had visited. Well I wasn't back for more than a day from the last recruitment trip when I called up that third school to ask them when I should show up and what paperwork I needed to fill out... it wasn't until about two years later that I realized I couldn't remember receiving an official acceptance letter or phone call from them...
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by chavesn on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @02:46AM (#9067440)
As an aside -- I have always found this type of sentence formulation, common with software engineers, so mystifying. It would be just as easy to understand without the sentence variables -- it doesn't add clarity but it does add length.

The alternative:

> Once in our CS department (not CMU), we had given PhD acceptance to a wrong student, since he carried the same name+surname with the candidate we intended to admit.

> Instead of rescinding the acceptance, we let both join. It turned out that the candidate we admitted by mistake performed much better than the other. :-)

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by kszx on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:01AM (#9067475)
My personal impression:

Formulation 1 (with variables, short and concise sentences): easy to understand.

Formulation 2 (without variables, long sentence): difficult to understand.

==> I prefer Formulation 1.

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by qnaal on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @04:39AM (#9067692)
One doesn't always know whether the structure of the prose they are about to produce will permit discernment of its subjects by context and description alone. That is to say, in informal communications, an intuitive notation such as "[class][index]" can easily map between an abstract thought and its textual representation, without a critical re-reading on the part of the author to ensure the subjects are properly differentiated, potentially followed by subtle sentence refactoring.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by shrig94 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @02:50AM (#9067454)
In support of the variables, the comments seem to leverage Student1 and Student2 to describe the students the commenters are referring too, which is a lot easier than having to reexplain who you're referring to. (edit: DRY principle)
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by jacquesm on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:59AM (#9067607)
It's a style you also see quite frequently in legal documents where you first introduce the parties, give them a shorthand name and then use that name consistently throughout the document. I personally prefer that style over endless repetition of a description (with possible inconsistencies between the repetitions).
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by Blackthorn on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @01:24AM (#9067270)
To some of you reading this who haven't been to graduate school, this mistake is not as large as you might think. A lot of graduate schools have the policy of overadmitting and then pruning out during the oral exam (which usually 1-2 years into the program). I do not know if CMU is one of those schools (I attended one which did not have this policy; also, this policy can vary by department within the same school).
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by a3_nm on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:10PM (#9066941)
This reminds me of the novel _Small World_ where the main character is a young researcher who got a position thanks to a mistake like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_World:_An_Academic_Roman...

In that story, however, Student1 didn't get the position.

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by acjohnson55 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:19AM (#9067110)
Also reminds me of the movie Orange County, where main character Shaun Brumder does not get admitted to Stanford because they mistakenly admit classmate and stoner Shane Brainard instead. Hilarity ensues.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by stfu on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:48AM (#9067585)
Wasn't there once some sort of experiment of admitting a random sample from a college application pool? Couldn't find it on the spot, but I think it had some similar results to the PhD admission experience. It also does make sense from a armchair psychologist standpoint: The one being admitted on weak grounds will probably put in a lot more effort to keep up with the class/competitors than the one having always some other, similar options to fall back on.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by CamperBob2 on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @10:57PM (#9066901)
Did Student2 know he was given a pass due to the mistake?
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by mad44 on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:00PM (#9066913)
No, as far as I know. Only some faculty knew, until it was divulged at a graduate review meeting.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by sjwright on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:05PM (#9066925)
It would be interesting to look back and see what indicators might have indicated Student2's success that was not seen by the department.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by srinivasupadhya on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:10PM (#9066942)
A third degree friend of mine resigned from her job as soon as she received acceptance mail. She received rejection mail in the morning & was devasted. As depressing as it could get.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by TylerE on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:16PM (#9066957)
Might want to consult with a lawyer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel

> Estoppel occurs when a party "reasonably relies on the promise of another party, and because of the reliance is injured or damaged"

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by SilasX on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:50AM (#9067590)
I thought that was just called, er, detrimental reliance?
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by hindsightbias on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:39PM (#9067010)
The first thing I'd do after being accepted for a Fall 2015 Masters program would be to quite my job.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by pnathan on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:22PM (#9066973)
Oh. My. That's going to be a mess. Some people will have quit their jobs, turned in notice, etc. CMU might want to be prepared to reaccept some of those people.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by thedudemabry on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:23AM (#9067526)
My response exactly.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by therobot24 on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:31PM (#9066995)
wasn't the error corrected quickly though?
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by pnathan on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:44PM (#9067021)
I am sure that someone got the email, yelled loudly, and then wrote their "I quit" email to their fine employer.

Or perhaps turned down other graduate school offers...

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by tedunangst on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:52PM (#9067042)
Don't burn your bridges until the chickens are hatched or something.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by llamataboot on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:08AM (#9067078)
You can't reasonably expect to be rejected /after/ being accepted though. Resigning when you apply, chickens not hatched yet. Get a letter from the program you applied to informing you of your acceptance, that's a pretty hatched chicken.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by tedunangst on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:32AM (#9067154)
Perhaps I should have just said don't burn your bridges? It's not strictly necessary to quit in a way that can't be unquit immediately upon receipt of an acceptance letter.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by kbar13 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:37AM (#9067170)
can't reply to tedunangst but it doesn't matter how you do it, you can't "unquit" once your employer knows you've been applying elsewhere, no matter if it's for school or another job.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by tedunangst on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @01:41AM (#9067309)
Keyword being immediately. Waiting 24 hours from acceptance notification to quitting doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. One may not expect to be unaccepted, but a little prudence rarely hurts in the event of the unexpected.

That said, it certainly is possible to unquit at many employers provided you didn't quit by taking off your pants and running out the door shouting "adios, motherfuckers."

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by hackinthebochs on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:47AM (#9067192)
I don't know why you think you can't in general. If you're on good terms and quit on good terms I would expect most places you could undo it once you explained the situation. I know for a fact that I could at my employer.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by simon_ on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:25PM (#9066983)
Ugh, this apology seems lamely antiseptic. "We are reviewing our notification procedures" is not the level of self-abasement I would expect after a mistake this serious.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by javert on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:35AM (#9067167)
It's CMU. I wouldn't expect them to admit a mistake at all, so this is pretty good.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by misiti3780 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:51AM (#9067204)
why is that ?
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by _qhtn on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @02:30AM (#9067409)
They're the top ranked in CS, and also highly ranked in general.

If you're the best or close to, you're allowed to make mistakes (See Linus' toxic remarks). God have mercy on you if you aren't.

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by jrockway on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @10:51PM (#9066877)
At least it wasn't for a software testing-focused master's degree.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by forgotX2 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:22AM (#9067117)
I thought the discipline was ironic too, but it was probably a secretary with a massive spreadsheet that messed up a formula or a mail merge.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by xfr on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @10:55PM (#9066893)
I can't imagine what those applicants are going through.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by dorfsmay on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:05PM (#9066927)
Both sad and ironic!

Aren't those emails somehow legally binding?

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by psychometry on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:11PM (#9066944)
No, you usually need an offer on letterhead from the dean of the graduate school (or similar).
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by Alex3917 on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:18PM (#9066963)
If the email comes from a school employee then that may be enough to make it legally binding. But even if it isn't, if you threaten to sue the school will almost always let you in. This sort of thing happens all the time, e.g. from coaches who tell athletes they are accepted before the admissions committee officially makes a decision, and the reason you never hear about lawsuits is because the schools almost always let the candidates in if they complain in order to prevent bad publicity.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by SapphireSun on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:42AM (#9067183)
I don't understand, wouldn't the law account for honest mistakes if you corrected them in a timely fashion (e.g. before anyone relied upon the notification, resulting in actual harm)? Why would a mistake like this be legally binding?

EDIT: Looks like someone further up the thread is in exactly this situation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9066942

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by bradleypowers on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:48PM (#9067032)
Good ol' Robert'); DROP TABLE Rejects;--
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by jsonau on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @01:08AM (#9067237)
I will put money that they use the incorrect email template (acceptance vs reject)
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by mataug on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:15PM (#9066953)
This scary, I got my admit to UW last week. I just hope they don't rescind it.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by loser777 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @02:16AM (#9067379)
Was it the PhD program? I know they usually notify people who were accepted in a phone call, so this kind of mistake is less likely to happen :).
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by whitewhim on Tuesday February 17, 2015 @11:59PM (#9067053)
for grad school, or undergrad? Either way congrats! I've spoken with a lot of the CS students and they're super bright.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by timothya on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:24AM (#9067128)
Note that "UW" is a very overloaded term:

- University of Washington

- University of Waterloo

- University of Wisconsin

- University of Wyoming

etc.

Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by chris_va on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @01:29AM (#9067283)
But we all know which UW is the right one :)
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by acchow on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @02:18AM (#9067382)
Can't tell if this is clever sarcasm or you mean Waterloo...
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by jcagalawan on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:29AM (#9067540)
Americans will probably think of Washington first.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by timothya on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @04:04AM (#9067618)
This is exactly what I'm talking about. No one knows what each other is talking about when saying "UW". Looking at chris_va's profile, it appears he was talking about the University of Washington. Most of the US probably thinks of UW that way, though in Silicon Valley I've met a lot more people from the University of Waterloo than from the University of Washington.
Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by tdaltonm on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @03:18AM (#9067516)
Ah, CMU.. it's certainly no Stanford.
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Re:CMU Accidentally Sends Out 800 Acceptance Letters To CS P... by shekhar101 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:53AM (#9067209)
Flagged. This, of course, is totally fake.