Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by tptacek on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @02:43PM
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“I have a confession to make, Mr. Sacca. I’ve played a fair amount of Wii Tennis before.” While talking, he used his controller to navigate through the settings pages on the Wii to a list of high scores. “In fact,” he continued, “on the Wii Tennis global leaderboard, I am currently tied for 2nd in the world.”
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So, if Travis decides he wants to provide a cleaner, safer, easier experience than the current taxi system, he will make that work. If he sets his sights on reforming pervasive, anti-consumer regulatory corruption, watch those laws soon fall while exposing the shady backroom deals that created them. If he wants to eviscerate the racism that keeps people of color from having consistent access to rides in taxis, that will be the result. If he wants to take drunk drivers off the street, you will see the fatality rates fall wherever he operates his business.
To understand how someone can reasonably jump from the Wii Tennis leaderboard to an unequivocal valorization of Uber and the process of building Uber, it helps to know that Chris Sacca is one of Uber's earliest investors.
The article was more interesting before the "anti-corruption" "shady backroom deals" stuff. Horserace coverage of markets is interesting and Sacca has an unique vantage point. I don't know why he bothered trying to sneak the moral justification in.
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by api on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @02:46PM
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I think they call this "jawboning your portfolio," though in this case more colorful metaphors come to mind.
Not saying Travis isn't brilliant, hard working, great at Wii tennis, and a tough person to compete with in general, but come on... rarely do I ever read such a transparent bit of...
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by paul on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @02:54PM
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Guessing which founders are going to start the next multi-billion dollar business is surprisingly hard. To me, the fact that Sacca is an early investor in Uber gives the post more credibility, not less.
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by tptacek on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:26PM
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Sorry, I was totally unclear. His assessment of Kalanick's competitive prowess is very credible. His assessment of the public policy impact of Uber is less so. (I edited the comment shortly after writing it, trying to capture that).
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by akerl_ on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:00PM
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"He doesn’t sleep. He doesn’t lose focus. He will even forget to eat. He executes again and again, inspiring those around him to have the same passion for the end game as he does."
I really wish we'd stop using sleep-deprivation and similar unhealthy patterns as a gauge for level-of-dedication. I'd hazard a guess that what makes Travis Kalanick so effective at what he does his willingness to do hard work, effectively choose between various risks and business strategies, and network well with other motivated people. The part where he doesn't eat probably isn't what's helping him.
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by api on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:07PM
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Agreed. Lots of aspiring entrepreneurs copy that kind of stuff, doing 80 hour work weeks on Red Bull, modafinil, and ramen because correlation equals causation.
Many great musicians had problems with heroin so shooting smack will make you a great musician, right?
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by hawkice on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @02:43PM
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Chris Sacca seems like a good person and straight-shooter, but I am having a hard time reading any more reasoning out of this than "I think he's hard working and he's really good at Wii Tennis". It could have been any game, and it's not like he's secretly best-in-the-world at all games. He got lucky (when it comes to the game chosen by his opponent) in a casual encounter playing video games at a cabin. Surely we are approaching the horizon where completely random statistical noise is being swapped out for insight?
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by signalnine on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @02:55PM
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I hear that when Travis Kalanick was born a bright star lit up the sky, the seasons spontaneously changed from winter to spring, and rainbows appeared.
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by skrebbel on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:06PM
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I'm not sure why this is on HN. Might as well change the title to "Owner Of Taxi Company Stock Thinks Taxi Company CEO Is The Shit". This is almost as earth shattering as a blog post in which the Winklevosses recommend that we all buy Bitcoin.
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by chralieboy on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:01PM
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The author seems to have written this as flattering to Travis, but he comes off as an arrogant jackass.
At the end of the day, he doesn't care about _people_. He decides he wants to own something and ruthlessly pursues it. There is merit to success in a narrow field of life (e.g. business), but on the whole I wouldn't put him up as a model citizen.
Would I want a world full of people like that? Not particularly. Reminds me of Thomas Hobbes' "endless seeking of power after power, that ceaseth only in death." A recipe for success, in a very narrow sense, but not happiness.
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by puranjay on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:19PM
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I said this in an earlier thread as well.
TK comes across as a businessman. The kind of living embodiment of those motivational mantras 'business and marketing' accounts have on Instagram (except his is the 'work hard, work harder' dictum, not the 'work hard, party hard')
In contrast, the people who run Google - Page, Brin and (earlier) Schmidt - come across as nerds who just happened to build an absolutely amazing product. Their commitment is to their tech first, not their business. Yes, they will mow down rivals if need be, but they won't do it as unapologetically and single-mindedly as TK
TK reminds me a bit of Bill Gates in the late 80s and 90s - smart as hell and ruthlessly driven.
I wouldn't want to compete against 90s-era Gates. Or 90s era Larry Ellison. He would probably outwork, outnetwork and outsell me. I might have a chance of outsmarting him, but that isn't nearly enough.
(no, that's hyperbole. I have no chance in hell of outsmarting Gates or Ellison or TK)
Re:Why I would never want to compete with Travis Kalanick
by untog on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:16PM
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"Person who has invested large sums of money in Uber and has a lot to gain from it being successful says that, despite what many, many other people say, the Uber CEO is in fact a fantastic person."
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So, if Travis decides he wants to provide a cleaner, safer, easier experience than the current taxi system, he will make that work. If he sets his sights on reforming pervasive, anti-consumer regulatory corruption, watch those laws soon fall while exposing the shady backroom deals that created them. If he wants to eviscerate the racism that keeps people of color from having consistent access to rides in taxis, that will be the result. If he wants to take drunk drivers off the street, you will see the fatality rates fall wherever he operates his business.
To understand how someone can reasonably jump from the Wii Tennis leaderboard to an unequivocal valorization of Uber and the process of building Uber, it helps to know that Chris Sacca is one of Uber's earliest investors.
The article was more interesting before the "anti-corruption" "shady backroom deals" stuff. Horserace coverage of markets is interesting and Sacca has an unique vantage point. I don't know why he bothered trying to sneak the moral justification in.
Not saying Travis isn't brilliant, hard working, great at Wii tennis, and a tough person to compete with in general, but come on... rarely do I ever read such a transparent bit of...
I really wish we'd stop using sleep-deprivation and similar unhealthy patterns as a gauge for level-of-dedication. I'd hazard a guess that what makes Travis Kalanick so effective at what he does his willingness to do hard work, effectively choose between various risks and business strategies, and network well with other motivated people. The part where he doesn't eat probably isn't what's helping him.
Many great musicians had problems with heroin so shooting smack will make you a great musician, right?
At the end of the day, he doesn't care about _people_. He decides he wants to own something and ruthlessly pursues it. There is merit to success in a narrow field of life (e.g. business), but on the whole I wouldn't put him up as a model citizen.
Would I want a world full of people like that? Not particularly. Reminds me of Thomas Hobbes' "endless seeking of power after power, that ceaseth only in death." A recipe for success, in a very narrow sense, but not happiness.
TK comes across as a businessman. The kind of living embodiment of those motivational mantras 'business and marketing' accounts have on Instagram (except his is the 'work hard, work harder' dictum, not the 'work hard, party hard')
In contrast, the people who run Google - Page, Brin and (earlier) Schmidt - come across as nerds who just happened to build an absolutely amazing product. Their commitment is to their tech first, not their business. Yes, they will mow down rivals if need be, but they won't do it as unapologetically and single-mindedly as TK
TK reminds me a bit of Bill Gates in the late 80s and 90s - smart as hell and ruthlessly driven.
I wouldn't want to compete against 90s-era Gates. Or 90s era Larry Ellison. He would probably outwork, outnetwork and outsell me. I might have a chance of outsmarting him, but that isn't nearly enough.
(no, that's hyperbole. I have no chance in hell of outsmarting Gates or Ellison or TK)
I'm glad Uber exists, and good for Chris Sacca for investing in Uber, but Travis is not a superhuman person and this is no content post.
Yawn.