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Re:Working at Netflix by bogomipz on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @06:33PM (#8920464)
I also met with this same woman who talked about both the stock price and firing people. She also said something to the effect of "just because you have a job now doesn't mean you will have one in six months" and made a comparison to players being traded in professional sports. I remember feeling very put off by her. I too did not understand what the point in this bit of bravado was. It sounds like it's her standard candidate speech though which is just weird. The other thing that put me out was the first person who interviewed wasn't wearing shoes and insisted on sitting indian style with his feet pointed out to wards me. I am no stranger to a casual work environment but that is just gross. Lastly on the way to a conference room on the second floor I walked a fair amount through the office and what was notable to me was that I didn't see anybody smiling or even anyone who looked like they might be enjoying what they are doing. Ultimately I didn't get an offer because the job turned out to be a different description than the one I had interviewed about on the phone. I think that says it all.
Re:Working at Netflix by orbitur on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @08:33PM (#8920956)
> Lastly on the way to a conference room on the second floor I walked a fair amount through the office and what was notable to me was that I didn't see anybody smiling or even anyone who looked like they might be enjoying what they are doing

Please don't ever make this assumption. I referred an acquaintance from school to my workplace (he was a great project partner, and I was the first of us to get hired after graduation, so why not?), and apparently when he passed through everyone was just... doing work. That was a telltale sign that everyone was grumpy to him.

I had to explain that we basically don't work at all on Friday afternoons because we're too busy drinking, we play pingpong religiously, frequent out of office events on the weekends, and in general it's just an enjoyable crowd. Random conversations happen all the time.

But nope, that one time he came through the office, everyone looked unhappy. Because they were working, I guess.

Re:Working at Netflix by unwind on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:31AM (#8922405)
[...] frequent out of office events on the weekends [...]

That sounds ... very strange. Weekends aren't generally speaking "office hours", and more importantly also not "working hours". Having an "out of office event" in my world is when you're doing work, i.e. it's during normal working hours, but you're not at work.

Having frequent work-related "events" on weekends sounds like a total bummer.

Re:Working at Netflix by yitchelle on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:31AM (#8922560)
Depending on the work culture, out of hours event is a minefield. At the very least, you should have an opt-out possibility and not looked down upon if you do opted-out.
Re:Working at Netflix by orbitur on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @12:09PM (#8924024)
Totally voluntary. Work just pays for them. A number of people opt out and no one judges them.
Re:Working at Netflix by jonny_eh on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:42PM (#8924667)
How do you know what your coworkers think?
Re:Working at Netflix by hueving on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:44PM (#8926313)
Because everyone that works at Netflix thinks the same way. They ensure that with their hiring practice that alienates anyone that thinks differently.
Re:Working at Netflix by dreamweapon on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @02:37PM (#8925117)
I had to explain that we basically don't work at all on Friday afternoons because we're too busy drinking,

This also sounds like a major bummer -- aside from the fact that does smacks (way too heavily) of bro culture, it's incredibly off-putting to anyone who doesn't drink (or who does, but thinks drinking in the office -- or drinking heavily in the afternoon on any kind of a regular basis -- is basically pretty stupid).

Re:Working at Netflix by erikb on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:20AM (#8923151)
If people are either happy or working then that's actually a problem. You don't apply to a company to spend Friday afternoon drinking beer, but to work, right?
Re:Working at Netflix by orbitur on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @12:11PM (#8924041)
The point is that it's not either/or. People who are working can be mistaken for people who are unhappy, simply because they're busy. It's an assumption that should be avoided.
Re:Working at Netflix by bogomipz on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:55AM (#8921884)
First of all don't tell people what the should or shouldn't think. Not only is it condescending but its ridiculous. Also this wasn't an assumption it was an observation. This wasn't people with their head down working, this was eye contact I made with many people in different states of being at work and none of them could muster a friendly smile. That's completely different.
Re:Working at Netflix by gizzlon on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @08:26AM (#8922939)
> First of all don't tell people what the should or shouldn't think.

But it's okay to tell them what to do?

Re:Working at Netflix by ScottBurson on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @08:52PM (#8921015)
I scowl fiercely and curse a blue streak when I'm coding. Doesn't mean I'm not having fun :-)
Re:Working at Netflix by poor_too_ on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @07:33PM (#8920715)
Not only gross, but wildly disrespectful in many cultures.
Re:Working at Netflix by caente on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @09:17PM (#8921096)
Anything can be wildly disrespectful in some culture
Re:Working at Netflix by bogomipz on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:56AM (#8921889)
Being that its Netflix whose office is in California, it is American work culture we are talking about so yes this is considered disrespectful.
Re:Working at Netflix by tomp on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:58AM (#8922476)
I find the "standard (American) work culture" wildly disrespectful. I mean, expecting people to wear standardized clothes and having them clock in and out? Are we in prison?
Re:Working at Netflix by hueving on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:47PM (#8926324)
>I mean, expecting people to wear standardized clothes and having them clock in and out? Are we in prison?

Um, neither of those are true in any companies I worked at in the US except for a job in high school as a cash register attendee.

Re:Working at Netflix by ck425 on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @04:36AM (#8922280)
Work culture varies hugely from company to company. If that's considered ok at Netflix that's their choice, if the the guy doesn't like it just don't work there.
Re:Working at Netflix by geofft on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @10:11PM (#8921247)
There are a finite set of cultures. "Can be" isn't a particularly productive claim.
Re:Working at Netflix by sgarman on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @02:31AM (#8921974)
I would argue that Netflix has it's own culture, a company culture. Perhaps if the commenter was really put off by this he would not be a good fit and it would not work out for either of them. I know there are a lot of protected characteristics you can't use to make hiring decisions but this does not seem like one of them - seems like Netflix hires form all sorts of cultures and only people who are not offended by other cultures choices.
Re:Working at Netflix by j2bax on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:36AM (#8923494)
The owner of the company I work for rarely wears anything besides flip flops and his feet are kind of gross. But who cares? It doesn't impede our ability to build cool stuff, make money and have plenty of fun. It sounds like you might be just as stuffy if not more so than the people you observed on your walk through Netflix.
Re:Working at Netflix by violentvinyl on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:23AM (#8922540)
I would have quite enjoyed the opportunity to try a recommended interview tactic here: "Mimicing the interviewers body language".
Re:Working at Netflix by click170 on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @08:19PM (#8920910)
I have a question about your choice of words re the person who insisted on sitting with their feet towards you.

Did you suggest that you would feel more comfortable if they sat differently?

This doesn't make any difference for me personally but I understand why some people would prefer that the person not sit like that. However, if you did not express an objection with regards to how that made you feel, I don't think "insisted" is a fair choice of words there.

Re:Working at Netflix by nandemo on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @09:54PM (#8921210)
One of the meanings of "insist" is "persist in (doing something)". That's presumably the meaning intended by grandparent.
Re:Working at Netflix by mattlutze on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:57AM (#8923314)
A common usage for "insisted" (in American English, at least) is "did so with no apparent consideration of the effect," in a generally passive-aggressive context.

"He insisted on chewing with his mouth open, I mean, ew. Gross."

The offender is generally expected to read non-verbal, and often non-expressed, communication of the offended's opinion.

Re:Working at Netflix by mc32 on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @08:29PM (#8920937)
Maybe that in itself was a test to see of people had personality or just put up with anything without much protest.
Re:Working at Netflix by tempestn on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:00AM (#8921730)
If so, seems like kind of a BS test to me. Job interviews are stressful enough without that kind of social experiment nonsense. There are a set of expected behaviors in an interview that don't necessarily reflect how a person would act in day to day life.
Re:Working at Netflix by mc32 on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:44AM (#8921861)
True. But all kinds of people play little power games. They know you probably won't say anything, unless you don't care and call out the emperor. Tough to say though, but someone selfaware should know this projects some kind of power 'play' and would avoid that manner.
Re:Working at Netflix by bogomipz on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @02:01AM (#8921901)
Your suggestion that this is my fault for not objecting to the way my interviewer chose to conduct themselves in a professional setting is a joke. You must either work for them or be the person who was crass enough to behave like that. As another commenter said, that is a correct use of the word "insist." Look it up.
Re:Working at Netflix by pwr22 on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:02AM (#8922338)
There is no talk of blame or fault. All the poster is doing is presenting an opportunity that you could have taken, and hopefully you may attempt if a future situation occurs, that could have improved your experience. People cannot see inside your head and that is why we communicate
Re:Working at Netflix by hueving on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:51PM (#8926347)
The person conducting an interview is in a position of power. The interviewee shouldn't have to ask him to stop behaving inappropriately. It's the same reason prison guards get arrested for consensual sex with inmates.