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Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by exabrial on Thursday October 23, 2014 @12:26AM (#8496690)
The only reason I use the Oracle jdk in my enterprise vs. OpenJDK is performance. Oracle goes out of their way to make it a pain in the ass to install their jdk. If Oracle's jdk were available via apt, this would be a no contest.

I'm curious if there's a performance improvement with Zulu and if there are apt repos available.

Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by pjmlp on Thursday October 23, 2014 @02:49AM (#8496969)
> Oracle goes out of their way to make it a pain in the ass to install their jdk.

1 - Download from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8...

2 - install package

3 - configure PATH

Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by giltene on Thursday October 23, 2014 @02:58PM (#8500035)
Yes, there are apt repos available. Also yum repos (see links and docs at http://www.azulsystems.com/products/zulu/downloads).

On x86, if you can measure performance diffs between same-version OpenJDK/Zulu and OracleJDK, you are probably measuring noise. Zulu is simply a binary build of OpenJDK. As far as we can tell, the performance is identical because the source is the same.

Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by krisgenre on Thursday October 23, 2014 @12:55AM (#8496744)
From Java7, I thought both Oracle jdk and OpenJDK were almost the same. Does Oracle still offer an edge over performance?
Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by tluyben2 on Thursday October 23, 2014 @02:53AM (#8496984)
In my experience yes. It is especially clear on more limited (ARM) devices (Chromebook ARM, Atom/Celeron laptops) though; if you get stuff running at all, it is very slow; swap Oracle JDK in and it's suddenly very usable. I myself don't do a lot with server side Java anymore, but my colleagues tell me the same things, but it's fast enough for most applications there. On the client it's far more obvious.
Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by needusername on Thursday October 23, 2014 @01:33AM (#8496824)
Huh? On Linux getting Oracle JDK is a matter of wget und tar. On Windows and Mac OS you get an installer. If you want OpenJDK on Windows or Mac OS you have to build from source.

For me the real difference is that you don't get Flight Recorder on OpenJDK.

Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by izacus on Thursday October 23, 2014 @03:27AM (#8497050)
Are the webupd8 repositories for Oracle JDK are too problematic from security standpoint?
Re:Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK by desdiv on Thursday October 23, 2014 @08:54AM (#8497847)
The webupd8 PPA repositories are only available for Debian-based distros. Perhaps parent is running RHEL or CentOS.