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Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by yen223 on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:29PM (#8469132)
I think you overestimate the rate at which skills become out-of-date. Industrial machines which are based on designs ten, twenty years ago are still in wide use.
Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by ams6110 on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:49PM (#8469187)
Computers which are based on designs ten, twenty, even forty years ago are also still in wide use.
Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by logicchains on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:55PM (#8469204)
I wonder if machinists familiar with older technologies command a premium similar to that Cobol programmers receive.
Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by serf on Thursday October 16, 2014 @11:12PM (#8469246)
I'm not sure about machinists, but my father is an 'old-school' drafting table/slide rule (both of which he has since relinquished) mechanical engineer, and he commands a premium due to his 'hands-on' nature with problems.

He can sketch a picture and create a tool from the sketch in essentially the same day, whereas his counterparts take just as long just to sketch the tool in a CAD program of some sort.

He has always had a problem with CAD design. He can navigate it, but he has difficulty with actual modeling. Luckily he is at such a rank in his profession to where he has an intern assigned to him to translate his graph paper sketches into document-able CAD files and do other computerized clerical work that he's not up on.

Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday October 17, 2014 @03:01PM (#8472764)
Oh, no they don't.

Sure there are some times when knowing how things were done decades ago is useful if you have to repair something, or do something unusual. But what drives machine tools today is throughput, throughput, throughput and the techniques used by today's CNC machining centers completely obsolete entire categories of tools from years past.

What is more likely is that a machinist who was experienced in operating manual machines, and who has modernized his training can command a premium because his skill gained in doing things the manual way give him a better ability to program a controller to do it more efficiently (CAM software is only so good).

Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by notastartup on Friday October 17, 2014 @02:05AM (#8469627)
Software too! I was shocked when I learned that a local glass manufacturing company used DOS operating system which was running some esoteric job estimation enterprisey software from the 90s. They had no intention of upgrading.
Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by Tloewald on Friday October 17, 2014 @09:04AM (#8470703)
O'Reilly books uses Mac Classic to run the last version of Framemaker that still ran on the Mac. (Not sure why they don't use Parallels.)
Re:Why Germany Is Better at Training Its Workers by sliverstorm on Friday October 17, 2014 @01:30AM (#8469535)
Hell, I've known machine shops to use rigs built in the 1940's