Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive Capacity In Place

Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by geerlingguy on Thursday July 31, 2014 @02:42PM (#8116111)

What amazes me is that Apple's infrastructure has markedly improved over the past few years. I haven't noticed as many Mobile Me/iTools-era sluggishness or flakiness since at least a couple years ago. And I've yet to get on an internet connection that isn't saturated by a download from Apple.com or a related service. Not to say Apple's perfect, but whatever changes they made after all the Mobile Me fiascos seem to be helping.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by KC8ZKF on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:08PM (#8116280)

I've noticed the exact opposite.

It can take 15 seconds for my iPad to connect to the store over wifi. Similar results on my Windows desktop and my Apple laptop.

A download will fail at least a third of the time. If I'm downloading more than one thing, or the download is large, say a movie, I almost always have to restart the download.

Television shows continually reset themselves as unwatched, or split themselves into two seasons.

Items that are downloaded to the computers or devices suddenly make themselves "unavailable" and have to be downloaded again.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by js2 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:47PM (#8116532)

Any chance you're using third-party DNS servers and not your ISP's?

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by coherentpony on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:51PM (#8116550)

Funny you mention that. I had awful service with AT&T's DNS servers. After I switched to using Google's everything's run as quick as a button.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by js2 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:56PM (#8116594)

Not using your ISP's DNS can confound CDNs. In particular, I had to revert to my ISP's DNS servers from Google's specifically because my AppleTV was unable to stream movies otherwise. This was when Google DNS first launched, but you might give it a shot.

I happen to have a router running dnsmasq, so I could use different upstream DNS servers depending upon the query (i.e. route CDN domain queries to my ISP and everything else to Google), but I found it not worth the trouble. TWC's DNS isn't that bad... I do override their search page for non-existant domains with NXDOMAIN however.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by rdl on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:34PM (#8117131)

This is why anycast is better than DNS for cdn, IMHO :)

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by Hengjie on Friday August 01, 2014 @11:36AM (#8120575)

How easy is it to set up any cast as opposed to geo-DNS routing?

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by coherentpony on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:32PM (#8116809)

That's useful information that I didn't know. Thanks for sharing.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by yeukhon on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:37PM (#8117140)

That's exactly the reason I haven't switched away from my ISP's DNS because some services do run significantly better over my ISP's DNS instead of the non-ISP ones.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by KC8ZKF on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:13PM (#8117043)

No. I am using my ISP's DNS servers obtained through DHCP.

Also I have no problems with YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon instant video, etc.

EDIT: Before anybody suggests that I try different DNS servers, I have.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by jigabit on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:42PM (#8116867)

> I've yet to get on an internet connection that isn't saturated by a download from Apple.com

This year Apple has usually maxed out at 20-30 Mbyte/s instead of the 100+ Mbyte/s I get from some servers.

Move to KC — we also have great BBQ!

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by nwh on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:35PM (#8116828)

iMessage is still terrible. Messages don't make it to their destination, images fail to send properly, messages are duplicated.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by superuser2 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:21PM (#8117080)

In my experience, SMS is still many times worse. Long messages arrive out of order and parts sometimes do not arrive at all. I've had messages to friends on AT&T delivered 36 hours late, causing confusion.

iMessage, on the other hand, has mandatory delivery confirmation (so you can at least know if a message is going to be problematic) and optional read receipts.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by abritishguy on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:48PM (#8117197)

Is SMS really that bad in the states? It works pretty flawlessly in the UK.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by superuser2 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:52PM (#8117225)

Yes. It's why iMessage exists (and was welcomed with open arms) in the first place.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by ambler0 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:17PM (#8117063)

To the people saying this is not a problem, it is. In particular, iMessage seems to often get confused when trying to send a picture. The progress bar will get to half or even mostly full, and then just pause ...forever.

It's not a connection issue. On several occasions after running into this iMessage issue, I have emailed the picture full-res without problems.

That said, I don't think iMessage is terrible. I love it when it works as expected.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by Angostura on Thursday July 31, 2014 @06:40PM (#8117431)

Odd, in the UK I get almost 100% success - plus you get the handy delivered (and optionally read) notifications.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by eknkc on Thursday July 31, 2014 @06:59PM (#8117499)

Never had such problems. I use it both from desktop and my phone, works just fine.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by revscat on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:50PM (#8116912)

Never had this problem, and with one exception everyone I text with has an iPhone.

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Re:Apple’s CDN Now Live: Has Paid Deals With ISPs, Massive C... by feld on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:42PM (#8116871)

I've never experienced this. Sounds like a general network issue, not an iMessage issue. Junk network equipment at home? Badly oversubscribed LTE/3g in your area?

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