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Re:Stellar by lnanek2 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @02:01PM (#8115835)
Pretty strange how Stellar is paying people to sign up with Facebook. Facebook is very centralized. These modern currencies are very decentralized. I don't mind myself, but it seems like paying someone to sign up with the enemy...
Re:Stellar by jamiequint on Thursday July 31, 2014 @02:49PM (#8116154)
Its not strange at all, otherwise it would be too easy to create a bunch of email accounts and "mine" stellar with them. With Facebook they have account history, number of friends, activity, etc as proof of validity. Its not a perfect measure but its much better than just allowing arbitrary email signups.
Re:Stellar by grey-area on Friday August 01, 2014 @03:46AM (#8118749)
I used a fake FB account to sign up and get stellar. This is in fact no protection at all and they should just drop the requirement.
Re:Stellar by gdb on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:04PM (#8116260)
I hear you. It's a temporary measure: https://www.stellar.org/faq/#_Why_do_I_need_to_authenticate_.... Basically, it was an easy (but imperfect) way to start. We'd certainly love suggestions for other channels to distribute stellars.
Re:Stellar by spacefight on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:13PM (#8116310)
The signup with FB to get 5000 stellars pushed me off. Why should I give a totally new non-profit organisation access to my FB profile? I guess most of the devs here know, what that mean in terms of privacy.
Re:Stellar by pbhjpbhj on Thursday July 31, 2014 @06:53PM (#8117476)
Same here .. why does a currency exchange need access to my FB friends and photos? For all I know the whole thing has been set up as a ruse to show that idiot tech-heads will give away their ID and family photos for "magic beans" in the form of potentially worthless private currency.

Of course I'm happy to beg for "money" .. so you're still reading gdb, please give me some stellar (username: pbhj). Thanks!

Re:Stellar by mkaziz on Thursday July 31, 2014 @09:38PM (#8118010)
It was the photo's that did it for me. Basic profile info, I can accept. Photo's, no.
Re:Stellar by gdb on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:17PM (#8116338)
Yep, for sure. The goal is to get stellars into the hands of as many people as possible, and so moving beyond just FB is definitely a priority. (If you want, I'd be happy to send you a few stellar to play with in the meanwhile.)
Re:Stellar by borec on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:39PM (#8116475)
I absolutely hate Facebook but I have a Facebook account which I never use (mostly used to look up people). I tried to use this account during the Stellar registration process and I am getting "Facebook account is too new to qualify". Can you please help?
Re:Stellar by gdb on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:56PM (#8116949)
Oof, that's annoying. We probably can't tell the age on your account. If you send me your stellar username, I'll send some stellars over.
Re:Stellar by 0x0 on Thursday July 31, 2014 @07:10PM (#8117531)
Aren't fb user IDs assigned as increasing numbers? You could probably just decide on a cut-off user ID and treat all lower numbers as "older".
Re:Stellar by ahupp on Thursday July 31, 2014 @07:55PM (#8117686)
They are increasing within any one user database, but there are many of these databases. So useridA < useridB only implies B is newer than A if dbid(useridA) == dbid(useridB).
Re:Stellar by rydo on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:08PM (#8116671)
I've got the same problem as some other users here, my FB account was flagged as spam -- not that surprising since I don't use it, but it's annoying.
Re:Stellar by gwynp on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:52PM (#8116926)
same problem here. I hope they provide other methods for doing this soon.
Re:Stellar by ryan-c on Thursday July 31, 2014 @09:33PM (#8118000)
Well, since everyone else is asking, my username is ryanc, and I don't have a Facebook account.
Re:Stellar by tripzilch on Friday August 01, 2014 @08:56AM (#8119534)
That'd be great, I don't have FB. My username is tripzilch, the same as on HN.
Re:Stellar by ingenieroariel on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:28PM (#8116795)
Can I also get some stellar? Same username here and there. Thanks in advance.
Re:Stellar by gdb on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:56PM (#8116952)
Yep, some should be on their way shortly.
Re:Stellar by guy_c on Monday August 11, 2014 @07:12AM (#8162798)
Appreciate having some stellar for my account too - 'guyc'
Re:Stellar by simonebrunozzi on Friday August 01, 2014 @01:05AM (#8118442)
How can I, instead, get in touch with you directly? simone.brunozzi then the weird character then gmail.
Re:Stellar by yogo on Friday August 01, 2014 @08:31AM (#8119433)
Same username as HN, no Facebook account.
Re:Stellar by ingenieroariel on Friday August 01, 2014 @12:42AM (#8118405)
Got them, thanks!
Re:Stellar by byproxy on Thursday July 31, 2014 @09:49PM (#8118033)
"ochoa" wouldn't mind some stellar sans Facebook account.
Re:Stellar by spacefight on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:50PM (#8116544)
Thanks - same username as on HN.
Re:Stellar by gdb on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:59PM (#8116614)
Shazam! You have stellars.
Re:Stellar by wqfeng on Friday August 01, 2014 @02:20AM (#8118593)
My user name is catalyst. Thanks.

I don't have a Facebook account, and register one detected as spam.

Re:Stellar by budgi3 on Friday August 01, 2014 @03:00AM (#8118669)
Shutdown my facebook a/c a few months back. Could you send to me directly please? Same username as HN
Re:Stellar by maaku on Thursday July 31, 2014 @10:31PM (#8118139)
I'm in the same boat -- same username as HN, but facebook login isn't working.
Re:Stellar by spacefight on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:14PM (#8116707)
Thanks. Just out of curiosity, how did you get your Stellars?
Re:Stellar by gdb on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:53PM (#8116930)
The same way as everyone else — OAuth'd with Facebook :).
Re:Stellar by jhall on Thursday July 31, 2014 @07:42PM (#8117638)
Unfortunately, I don't have a FB account either. It isn't clear that one is required at signup. Any chance of at least a partial allotment? Username is joninasheville. Thanks.
Re:Stellar by patrickk on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:34PM (#8117132)
Would appreciate some also. The connect with Facebook button on the Stellar dashboard isn't working. Username is keanemachine ;)
Re:Stellar by noso on Thursday July 31, 2014 @07:09PM (#8117529)
ME too I have same problem with the facebook button. Same username as this one i.e. noso.
Re:Stellar by pskl on Saturday August 02, 2014 @03:38AM (#8124336)
Can I have some too ? id = pskl
Re:Stellar by Zhenya on Thursday July 31, 2014 @07:18PM (#8117553)
same user name as here - don't have facebook
Re:Stellar by rcsorensen on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:58PM (#8116968)
I'd love to see some https://keybase.io/ integration. There's some nice overlap with the federation concept, even if the "one-account-per-physical-person" story isn't as compelling.
Re:Stellar by Periodic on Thursday July 31, 2014 @06:16PM (#8117345)
It's hard to establish identity without using one of these centralized services. As someone without a Facebook account I'm also a little sad. I don't know if other centralized accounts have as many good ways to prevent new accounts from signing up. For example, Google and Microsoft accounts might not be so easy to associate with a real history.

University accounts might be another way. Some people who don't like centralized services like Facebook and Google will still have a university email address.

Re:Stellar by comp88th on Thursday July 31, 2014 @10:51PM (#8118181)
Hello, I tried signing up but kept getting the error message "Oops Please verify your facebook account and try again" I typed in my correct facebook user and password. Not sure why it is not working correctly. Please advise. If you can send me some stellars to play with meanwhile my user name is uprun478 Thanks
Re:Stellar by flowless on Thursday July 31, 2014 @02:45PM (#8116127)
+1. I won't use a service that forces me to connect with some 3d party.
Re:Stellar by chockablock on Thursday July 31, 2014 @04:14PM (#8116706)
You don't have to connect with FB to create an account.
Re:Stellar by faultywasps on Thursday July 31, 2014 @05:03PM (#8117010)
I bailed at the first page after the registration screen when I couldn't get any further due to the facebook requirement. I don't have a facebook account, who in tech has a facebook account these days?

I just find it strange that a supposedly forward-thinking new platform would require technology most people I know abandoned last decade. You don't appeal to early-adopters by requiring they use dead-tech.

Re:Stellar by renaudg on Thursday July 31, 2014 @06:34PM (#8117406)
"who in tech has a facebook account these days?"

erm, lol ?

Re:Stellar by faultywasps on Friday August 01, 2014 @03:00AM (#8118668)
well, you know, apart from those who actually work for facebook. or zynga.

I remember when we all had to create fake facebook accounts about 5 yrs ago when zynga tried to 'acqui-hire' our company just so we could see what farmville was like.

thankfully that didn't happen.

Re:Stellar by poweribo on Thursday July 31, 2014 @03:24PM (#8116376)
+1. signed but stopped when i saw connect to fb. no thanks.
Re:Stellar by andrewchambers on Thursday July 31, 2014 @10:10PM (#8118093)
its a fb account for 5000 stellar, this is just to stop people spamming new accounts.

You don't need to get the 5000 stellar.

Re:Stellar by joeyspn on Thursday July 31, 2014 @09:07PM (#8117922)
+1. Apparently they intend to comply with KYC regulations really early...
Re:Stellar by lucb1e on Friday August 01, 2014 @05:02PM (#8122788)
Your Facebook account is totally your new IP address.