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Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by mseebach on Monday August 24, 2009 @08:54AM (#781996)
Hmm, not exactly convincing. Leopard brought stuff like time machine, this smells more like a big service pack. I mean, OpenCL and some of the central applications running 64-bit? Better Quicktime and a new Safari? I don't even use QT and Safari.

And it's $29? Too little to be too much, but still a lot for a service pack.

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by Xixi on Monday August 24, 2009 @10:22AM (#782157)
Apple choosed speed, optimization and refinement over features. And I welcome this choice wholeheartedly, enough bloat already... make my OS faster, slimmer and more robust and I'll be happy.

Sadly the price point of Snow Leopard, and the sort of reaction that you have make me think that the big shops will continue to make ever more massive and bloated softwares...

After all, you get what you are ready to pay for : if you think features are worth more bucks than optimization, that's what you'll get.

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by yardie on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:20AM (#782042)
Did you even read link?

Here http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/ are the new features that went into this release. And your comment doesn't even make sense, first you say it's a service pack than you rattle off a short list of new and upgraded items. These things do cost money to develop. And I'm pretty sure $29 barely covers the cost of it. I don't remember anything new being in Windows when a SP rolled out except a new browser. (There was the uPNP browser that popped up in SP2 I believe)

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by mseebach on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:31AM (#782064)
Every other "system update" reboot I've made for the past 20 months seems to have included an update to QuickTime and Safari -- both of which, by the way, are available as free downloads -- and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by nudded on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:37AM (#782075)
> and the prominent featuring of those two products as a component of a whole new version of an OS makes it feel like a service pack.

point me to a page that only displays those 2 updates as the main features. In my browser Apple is clearly marketing the 64-bit, Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL as the main reasons to upgrade.

Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't. Microsoft releases service packs, just like Apple releases minor updates to their OS, (eg. 10.5.7)

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by thras on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:50AM (#782096)
Also stop referring to an OS upgrade as a service pack. Because it isn't.

Well, that convinced me!

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by unalone on Monday August 24, 2009 @11:34AM (#782340)
Thras, I'll ask you this completely sincerely, because I don't and never have understood this. Why do you, and people like you, get off from reading a lengthy debate on a topic online, and ignoring every point except the one that's not a point, then snarking about it? It's not just you: A lot of people do it, and it baffles me. I always really enjoy being told why my opinion on something is wrong, and these snarky responses don't seem to prove anything.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by thras on Monday August 24, 2009 @11:52AM (#782391)
You more or less said that the grandparent was wrong "just because." You were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument. Exactly what you complained about with me, btw.

The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark.

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by nixme on Monday August 24, 2009 @12:00PM (#782415)
> The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark.

Uh.. no it's not. You could respond like you just did now and explain that they "were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument."

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by thras on Monday August 24, 2009 @12:35PM (#782518)
Yeah. But that's slumming it when I explain things for the dimwits. I felt dirty afterward.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by miracle on Tuesday August 25, 2009 @06:45AM (#784579)
you my friend, are a mac troll which likes to pay money for service packs (which you get for free when you would be using windows).
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by gaius on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:58AM (#782113)
The new Quicktime leverages various features in Snow Leopard, e.g. Grand Central.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by cpr on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:31AM (#782061)
When Apple first announce 10.6, they said it wouldn't have any end-user features, but just a lot of re-engineering under the hood. Well, they couldn't help themselves, and there are a bunch of smaller features, plus things like Exchange support across the board.

And there really has been a lot of re-engineering, most of it focussed on making things a lot faster and smaller.

I think Apple deserve our thanks for actually making performance and improved footprint an explicit goal of a major release, rather than larding on new feature after new feature in some kind of misguided feature war.

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by stevoski on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:28AM (#782057)
Snow Leopard has always been described by Apple as a performance and stability upgrade.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by ionfish on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:24AM (#782048)
It depends on what you plan to do with it, I suppose. I'm personally happy to pay merely for a decent chunk of performance improvements (isn't that what we do when we buy faster computers, after all?), but the new frameworks are also interesting—OpenCL, for example.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by pibefision on Monday August 24, 2009 @08:56AM (#782003)
Also, there is some software that needs an update to work well on Snow Leopard, for example MacPorts.
Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by arthurk on Monday August 24, 2009 @12:10PM (#782452)
Apple has a few employees working on MacPorts who, along with the ADC devs, did a great job updating it for Snow Leopard in the past few months.

1.8-rc1 has already been tagged in svn and I'm sure the final version will be ready in time :)

Re:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on A... by Zev on Monday August 24, 2009 @02:14PM (#782829)
I think what everyone likes to point out re: MacPorts isn't MacPorts itself, but the software that it compiles, that needs work still.