Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by jt2190 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @06:52PM
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> In those cases, saying something like this would mean
> finding another job.
Did you actually try it?
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by smackfu on Thursday April 10, 2014 @12:17PM
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If wonder if companies with mandatory non-competes have lower salaries. They should.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by khuey on Thursday April 10, 2014 @01:35PM
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You would expect them to have higher salaries, to compensate employees for the risk of being prohibited from working for N months after their employment terminates.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by smackfu on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:09PM
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Higher initial salaries perhaps, but lower annual increases, since employees don't have as many jobs to switch to so there is less incentive for raises.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by nickff on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:40PM
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It appears that you are making the unstated assumptions that these employees have experience in exclusively non-transferable skills and that they had no knowledge of future changes in salary at the time they accepted the agreement. I find both of these claims to be dubious at best; if you have supporting evidence, please enlighten me.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by ghaff on Thursday April 10, 2014 @01:35PM
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Economic theory would suggest so. I suspect that, adjusting for everything else, it's a pretty small effect. Would be an interesting study though. I wonder if there's one there.
[EDIT: Duh. I misread the original post. Of course, the salary should be higher not lower to compensate for such a restriction--though I still suspect it would be small.]
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by nickff on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:13PM
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What economic theory would suggest this? This non-compete appears to be an option, and would be priced as such.[1]
I would guess that purchasing any additional assurance from an employee would cost the employer(s) more, perhaps in the form of salary, severance, or a signing bonus.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by ghaff on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:21PM
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You're, of course, correct for the reason that you state.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by JS1984 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:01PM
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In a good market, only more desperate candidates will go with non-compete positions. So lower salary argument makes sense
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by dredmorbius on Thursday April 10, 2014 @09:13PM
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You're making the error of deducing market conditions from price (or price from market conditions).
Market price is determined (in a well-functioning market) by the intersection of supply and demand. So the salary could go other way: higher, if a non-compete makes it harder for the employer to find employees willing to sign the clause, lower, if result is fewer alternatives and/or more desperate employees interested in the position.
I'd actually argue the second: that noncompetes raise employees' switching costs, and reduce their alternatives, so that a state in which noncompetes are valid and widely applied would tend to have depressed labor rates.
Re:Massachusetts Governor Announces Plan to Abolish Noncompetes
by stephencanon on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:45PM
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No; in a good market the employer who wants a non-compete would need to pay me up front for the time period that I wouldn’t be able to work after leaving her firm, plus a premium for the expected difference between my salary at that point and my salary at hiring, which would make the wage for positions with a non-compete significantly higher than those without.
Depending on your skills, your area of expertise, and your reputation, this may or may not be a big deal to you personally, but it's not an option for everyone. My last employer (when I was straight out of college) would have just shown me the door if I said something like this.