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Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by lsc on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:40AM (#7564516)
seems like this is a lack of supply, not a lack of demand.

It would be more like walking into the tailor and asking for a red velvet jacket, and the tailor responding "Wow, you are the tenth customer today asking me for a red velvet jacket. But, I don't make red velvet jackets, because I don't have the skills to work with velvet. In fact, I don't know of any local reputable tailors that are skilled with velvet who are not already under contract."

"Besides that, I'm an expert, and I think velvet is an inferior materiel. I am quite skilled with silk, and I could make you an excellent silk jacket. Silk is far more stylish and functional than velvet, anyhow."

"I know another very skilled leather-worker I could refer you to if you would like a jacket made of leather, but if you want velvet? I just can't help you"

Fundamentally, I think "I don't like working with technology X" is a fundamentally reasonable position to take. People have preferences. Sometimes people are willing to take less money in order to meet those preferences. "I don't have experience working with technology X" I think is an even more reasonable position to take.

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by Robin_Message on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:56AM (#7564550)
I guess what people are saying is that red velvet is so unfashionable they'd rather get a job in a factory working green leather day in, day out, than touch it.

Aside: If programming languages were coloured jackets?

C - black leather, with studs.

C++ - black leather, with studs, on the inside.

Perl - there seem to be fourteen armholes. And seven zips. It's light blue, but in some places the paint is flaking and many other colours show through. Oh, and there is no head hole. Its wearers insist it gets things done just fine and is very flexible. Everyone looks at them weirdly.

Java - a hospital gown. The bare minimum to cover you, mostly designed around the convenience of others. You can buy a factory to make them, but the customisations don't seem to make any difference.

Python - A comfortable denim jacket of average size. It is straightforward to put on. Most people say it fits them perfectly, although a few people say it chafes.

Ruby - every time you move this jacket, it changes slightly. Putting your arms into the sleeves causes new sleeves that would fit better to appear underneath the existing ones. If you tap it, you inexplicable end up with two jackets.

Haskell - a large tartan straitjacket. When you try to put it on, you find yourself in a new jacket, and the original jacket is still in the wardrobe. The jackets are connected by an unbreakable thread of modal. When you take it off, you find yourself looking at yourself still wearing the jacket. You are connected to your other self by a thread of modal. Allegedly you can do anything without errors whilst wearing a Haskell jacket; you suspect the wearers are simply crazy.

Go - A tweed blazer with leather arm patches. It can be split into multiple gackets, which can be worn by multiple people. When wearing your gacket, you can communicate with anyone in another of your gackets, but only one of you can move at once.

C# - part of a family of colourful jackets. The fit well, and are suitable for all formal occasions. However, they are not available outside the USA. Knock-offs are available in the rest of the world, but only in shades of grey.

Fortran - a powered exo-skeleton. It is old, slightly rusty, uncomfortable, unfashionable, and the wrong choice for almost all occasions. However, whilst wearing it you can run as fast as Usain Bolt.

Javascript - a quite ugly mustard yellow suit jacket. It almost looks like its been cut out of something else, a sofa possibly. If you put your hand in a pocket without declaring your intention to do so first, you find other people's stuff in your pocket, and your stuff gone. They are unreasonably popular due to a historical quirk in the law that requires you to wear one of these jackets when visiting a stranger's house.

Lisp - a bolt of woven yak wool, dyed saffron.

Clojure - a bolt of woven yak wool, dyed saffron. It also comes with some smaller pieces of wool dyed different colours, and a direct phone line to a hospital. If you read enough tutorials online, you can assemble a comfortable and useful jacket, although you often have to copy the jacket before you can modify it.

(many edits as I'm on a roll :-) )

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by luser on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:04AM (#7564572)
And to continue....

Smalltalk - the most perfectly made jacket in the entire world but when you put it on, all your other clothes disappear.

Javascript - A jacket with legholes where the armhole should be, but you wear it because everyone else is wearing one.

Visual Basic - A jacket made out of bits of old carpet.

Haskell - A highly technically advanced jacket made out of nano particles that configure themselves to the wearer, but nobody wears them as the instruction manual is written in Sanskrit.

I disagree with your Perl jacket... a Modern Perl jacket would come with a magic incantation that when said over the jacket, it turns it into a bad-ass leather jacket that comes with a free Harley Davidson.

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by _puk on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:52AM (#7564733)
JavaScript - more like a jacket with thousands of pockets. Some contain useful tools, usable by anyone with some experience of DIY. Others, extremely dangerous tools, many with their safety features disabled, usable only by qualified builders. There is no manual as to which is which.

CoffeeScript - A T-shirt and tie combo. You started with the intention to look smart, but got distracted by all the other cool looks you could potentially carry.

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by CmonDev on Thursday April 10, 2014 @04:28AM (#7564850)
> JavaScript Half the pockets a full of dung, so you have to use fingers very carefully.

> CoffeeScript Also both are bright pink, because why wouldn't you come up with your own syntax sugar when you have such an option?

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by uvTwitch on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:12AM (#7564600)
C# - black leather, but without the studs. Not as cool, but a safer choice for a corporate environment.
Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by logn on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:05AM (#7564576)
No, it's more like:

Recruiter: "Seeking a resource to with 10+ years experience making Red Velvet Jackets"

Tailor: "I've been making Black Velvet Jackets for 10+ years. How can I help you?"

Recruiter: "Do you know anyone who does Red who might be interested? Thanks!"

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by throwaway13qf85 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:06AM (#7564581)
Meanwhile, the tailor down the road who decided to take a couple of weeks to learn how to work with red velvet, despite his personal preference for working with silk, has filled ten orders for red velvet jackets already this week, and has an order book with a couple of hundred more waiting to be filled.

It's totally reasonable to refuse to work with technology X in favour of working with technology Y, despite the lack of demand for Y. But you can't simultaneously moan about how unfair the world is when you make that choice and then can't find as much work using Y. You knew what the situation was ahead of time.

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by lsc on Thursday April 10, 2014 @04:23AM (#7564831)
>It's totally reasonable to refuse to work with technology X in favour of working with technology Y, despite the lack of demand for Y. But you can't simultaneously moan about how unfair the world is when you make that choice and then can't find as much work using Y. You knew what the situation was ahead of time.

This is the fundamental difference between being a worker selling hours and a company producing a product. I care a lot more about how much I get paid when I work than how many of my hours I can sell. From my perspective? it is far better to be employed 50% of the time at $100/hr than 100% of the time at $50/hr. Hell, I'd rather be employed 20% of the time at $100/hr than 100% of the time at $50/hr. I can use those other hours to work on setting up my company so that it can sell more products with less labor. Or read a book or go on vacation or something. Optimizing for getting more work is for people at the very beginning of their career, or for people who can't earn a high enough hourly wage to cover the essentials on less than full-time work.

The thing is, demand does not equal pay; there are more jobs managing windows computers than there are managing Linux computers, but generally speaking? the latter pays better, in part because you usually have more servers per admin in a linux environment. Personally, I vastly prefer a high-pay, low-demand job where I might spend some time unemployed over the opposite.

(that said, I don't know what .net dev pay looks like compared to node.js pay. If they can't fill the positions, perhaps it's not high enough?)

Re:I’ve Sent This Over 100 Times to Recruiters looking for .... by lumens on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:15AM (#7564614)
He also seems to say, "I /can/ work with velvet, though preferably in conjunction with other materials, however I don't appreciate being referred to simply as a 'Velvet Tailor'."

Titles are tools, often used in ignorance. "[D]on’t limit our future careers by mislabeling us," OP writes. An employer's failure to titularly identify the meaningful distinction between "Problem Solver whose tool of choice is code" and ".NET Developer" has long-term ramifications for the potential employee, both inside and outside of that company's office.

The conceptual failure to distinguish between these things is common among non-technical people, including the first-round resume screeners for many companies.