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Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by emmelaich on Sunday March 30, 2014 @11:36PM (#7499460)
Then randomise rather than FIFO it. Or pro-rata it -- (an option submitted with the offer)
Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by kasey_junk on Sunday March 30, 2014 @11:42PM (#7499477)
So A) there are lots of markets that do pro-rata matching (larger orders get priority). B) there is a very reasonable bias against non-repeatable matching algorithms in current markets.

If you did randomized matching and 1 market participant seemed to have very good "luck", how could you convince the other market participants that the fix wasn't in? You have to understand that modern markets assume the worst case when it comes to collusion, insider trading, etc. Randomized fills is the worst case scenario given those assumptions.

Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by gizmo686 on Monday March 31, 2014 @12:45AM (#7499682)
>there is a very reasonable bias against non-repeatable matching algorithms in current markets.

What about psuedo-random that uses the trades themselves as a source of entropy?

Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by emmelaich on Sunday March 30, 2014 @11:56PM (#7499523)
Perhaps publicise the random numbers used at the same time as the order is executed, together with the identifier for the particular trades in the queue.
Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by kasey_junk on Monday March 31, 2014 @12:05AM (#7499543)
Publishing the number would not in any way, alleviate the concern that the system was not fair. You are thinking about this problem from a mathematics stand point when the issue is a social one.
Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by emmelaich on Monday March 31, 2014 @08:41AM (#7501015)
I plead guilty to approaching from a mathematics PoV. My sole intent is to overcome the tyranny of distance and exploitation of the time difference. The only people I hope to convince are other, mathematically sophisticated traders. By social do you mean the public-at-large's suspicion?
Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by platz on Monday March 31, 2014 @12:11AM (#7499574)
1, 1, 1, 1, 1... Can you verify if this sequence is random or not?
Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by emmelaich on Monday March 31, 2014 @08:50AM (#7501062)
OK, I'm lets stipulate that I am not particularly mathematically sophisticated.

However, I thought that you had a list of numbers at least as large as the number of trades expected in the 5 minute period, then you could order the trades by shuffling the numbers. I think it would not be too taxing to determine whether the sequence over time is random enough.

That said, I'm starting to see whether that it would impossible to know whether any particular 5 minute (or maybe day's worth) of trading is random enough. Perhaps crypto can come to the rescue here. Publish lists of random numbers in advance pgp signed.

Anyway, enough of my ramblings :-)

Re:U.S. stock markets are rigged, says author Michael Lewis by RachelF on Monday March 31, 2014 @12:11AM (#7499572)
Or add a few hundred milliseconds of random jitter to the transaction time. This would remove any advantage to low-latency traders.