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Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by simonster on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @10:58AM (#7429010)
I agree that having to destroy a shipment of perfectly usable multimeters sucks, but this seems like a pretty clear cut case of trademark violation to me. That multimeter really does look like a Fluke multimeter (see https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=fluke+multimeter). It was probably designed that way on purpose, probably because Fluke has a reputation for manufacturing high-quality multimeters, and someone could confuse it with a Fluke multimeter at a glance.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by vilhelm_s on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:16AM (#7429161)
But should you really be allowed to trademark industrial design? Consider Dell XPS ultrabooks. They are obviously designed to look like a Macbook, but with a Dell logo instead of the Apple logo (http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/product_media/40002464/image3...). Or think about sport cars, Ferrari has a trademark for their horse logo, but they don't have a monopoly on "a sport car painted red".

I think that is the ideal tradeoff---the logo lets a consumer know what they are buying, but you should still be allowed to buy cheap products that look stylish...

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rayiner on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:31AM (#7429315)
Industrial design cannot be protected, but trade dress can. Trade dress protection is available when a particular, arbitrary and non-functional, design becomes distinctive of a product. For these aspects of design to be protected, it must actually be distinctive of the product (i.e. you can't just claim a mark on the gray/yellow combination, but you have to show, usually through surveys, that the market identifies that design with your product).

Industrial design usually won't qualify because it's functional. The color comes from the use of aluminum, aluminum is used for its structural properties, particular colors have more aesthetic value in the market, etc. Trade dress has to be more specific, not functional, and arbitrary.

A classic example is pink for Owens-Corning insulation. It's a totally arbitrary color choice for a product where aesthetics doesn't factor into buyers' choices, and had become strongly associated in the public with Owens-Corning's brand. If there was a functional reason for the pink color, or it was a situation where people would prefer a certain color for aesthetic reasons, the design choice wouldn't have been eligible for protection.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by pilom on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:36AM (#7429350)
A second example of trade dress is Coca-Cola red and white with the cursive font. For instance, this shirt [1] in red almost certainly violates Coca-Cola's trade dress.

[1] http://www.cafepress.com/mf/34611212/enjoy-capitalism_tshirt...

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by leephillips on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:59AM (#7429553)
Perhaps if the shirt is also a soft drink. Otherwise I think the likelihood of consumer confusion is pretty slim.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by pilom on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @04:21PM (#7431577)
In the case of the shirt, there isn't confusion about if it is a soft drink, but a lawyer could successfully argue that a customer might buy the shirt thinking it was a coca-cola shirt. If the coca-cola trade dress did not exist, it is extremely unlikely that a shirt with that design would be marketed.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by Floegipoky on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:45AM (#7429429)
Doesn't fair use apply to this?
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by landhar on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:33AM (#7429336)
I'm not a lawyer, but I remember being told during an introductory class to business law in school that the definition of what makes a trademark can be whatever is considered to be so tied to the brand identity that people would immediately assume that the product belongs to the brand.

In the case of the Macbooks vs Dell XPS ultrabooks you could argue that what makes people recognize a Macbook is as much the glowing white apple logo as the aluminum case so people are not being fooled when they see a Dell XPS into thinking it's a Macbook.

Similarly, people don't immediately assume that a sport car painted red is a Ferrari. But if they were to see a car with a Ferrari logo (regardless of its color) they would most certainly assume that it's a Ferrari.

In short, it's my understanding that trademarks are by definition somewhat subjective. However I believe that the intention is a good one, as it protects as much customers than brands.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by Fuxy on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:49PM (#7429976)
If there weren't so may multimeters with the same color scheme out there I would agree with you but there are.

Fluke is not the first one to use the color scheme they were just the first to apply for a patent on it.

Even if they were they didn't enforce it until now so it became the general color scheme of all multimeters not just Fluke multimeters.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by chc on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:24PM (#7430276)
I really think you're overstating your case.

https://www.google.com/search?q=multimeter&safe=on&client=fi...

Most of the ones that look like a Fluke are indeed a Fluke.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by Fuxy on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:38PM (#7430372)
Well on google images there's quite a few however if you look here [1] very few are actually a Fluke.

[1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%...

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by landhar on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:33PM (#7430337)
I was just pointing out what my understanding of a trademark is and how I think it wouldn't apply for the Dell vs Macbook example.

In any case, I don't think I'm qualified to have an opinion in the case being discussed here. Both because my understanding of trademark law is just a very general sense of what it is supposed to stand for and because I have absolutely no notion of what are the multimeter brands out there and what their designs look like.

For what it's worth, all the multimeters I recall using at school were either all yellow or all black and I have the feeling they were always the same brand although I don't remember what that was (I studied in Europe)

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by hapless on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:01PM (#7429566)
It's called "trade dress." You absolutely are allowed, and this is probably a good thing.

In the case of a durable tool, like a multimeter, the industrial design serves the same purpose packaging does for normal consumer goods.

Let me turn the question around: "Should you really be allowed to trademark your packaging?"

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by wernercd on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:26AM (#7429267)
Should T-Mobile be able to trademark the color Magenta and prevent AT&T from using it?

The court says yes: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/08/t-mobile-wins-lawsui...

Why would this be different? Using a known, good name brand like Fluke or T-Mobile... and diluting it's name by making confusing, derivative and lesser products.

Using the color yellow shouldn't be off limits... but using yellow (or magenta) to confuse consumers should be.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by Spooky23 on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:05PM (#7429602)
I think that a better example is Coke -- their bottle shape is a user-friendly design that is easy to hold onto, but more importantly it has become an iconic symbol of Coke the brand.

I think in the case of Apple, they iterate so often on basic laptop design that having trademarked trade dress around a laptop would be counter-productive. They always want their devices to be thinner and lighter, and that requires fundamental changes to the design (wedge shapes, unibody, etc)

With the Dell laptop, what really makes it look like Apple? It's silver and thin. There are literally dozens of vendors shipping thin, silver devices.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by deletesystem32 on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:18PM (#7429703)
> Good design adds and means nothing

Yeah… nah

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by Malarkey73 on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:01AM (#7429037)
Multimeters here in the UK are almost always yellow (or red less often). They've been mostly yellow as long as I can remember and I've never heard of Fluke.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by gjm11 on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:12AM (#7429126)
A bit of googling turns up this forum thread with lots of pictures of old (and not so old) multimeters. A few typical pages: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/show-your-multimeter!/540/ http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/show-your-multimeter!/465/

Lots and lots of not-yellow multimeters, and the dark-with-yellow-surround ones do generally seems to be Flukes.

But not quite all. There are some exceptions here: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/show-your-multimeter!/315/ but I think they may all be recent enough to postdate Fluke's trademark (which I think was granted in 2003).

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rtkwe on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:16AM (#7429170)
It's the dark grey/black face + the yellow shell/border that's the problem here. It's really similar to Fluke's usual design.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by phaemon on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:27AM (#7429279)
I just searched on amazon.co.uk for multimeter and 7 out of 14 of the results have dark face + yellow shell/border. None of them are Fluke.

Maybe they did invent that scheme and everyone copied them, but if so, they're not enforcing it in the UK.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rtkwe on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:39AM (#7429375)
@phaemon (HN please increase your comment thread depth)

a) That's in the UK where Fluke doesn't have the same protections.

b) Those are newer, cheap, meters aping the design of Flukes, for that search to mean anything it should look back before Fluke's popularity or at least before they started using the current trademarked design.

c) Past just the first page the split gets much more even.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by phaemon on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:17PM (#7429697)
You just need to wait a bit before replying. The link takes some time to appear.

Your claim that they're "aping the design of Flukes" is unsupported. I haven't seen any evidence that Fluke invented that design or colour scheme, rather than it becoming a fairly common format for multimeters and then Fluke deciding to copyright the design.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rtkwe on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:26PM (#7430286)
Ah I'd never seen the link appear later before.

A lot of older multimeters look like this: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/show-your-multimeter!/540/ or something similar at least once handheld meters with multiple modes started to become an actual item. That whole thread is a decent cross section of multimeters, though it's skewed towards nice older meters as opposed to lower grade meters.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by makomk on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:02AM (#7429046)
Essentially any multimeter design with a dark body and yellow or orange surround would look just as much like a Fluke multimeter - scroll down to Exhibit 1 in the PDF, they haven't exactly been consistent in the design of their multimeters. (Probably any design with a red surround too since some of Fluke's multimeters have those.)
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by DanBC on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:54AM (#7429499)
Except the non-Fluke devices don't have FLUKE across the front of the device, nor across the back of the yellow case.

Most people glancing at it are going to see a multimeter, not a fluke. They would look for some kind of Fluke branding, and a yellow bezel with grey front plate is not that, for signs of flukeness.

Especially in the red sparkfun card it is pretty clear that these are not fluke. I find it hard to understand that anyone would think this is a fluke device with even cursory inspection.

Edit: your google images link is interesting. It shows some fluke devices being in red, not yellow, cases / bezels.

Removing the word fluke from the search terms returns many devices that are either all yellow, or all grey, with a few other colours, and some that are grey in a yellow case. Many of the grey and yellow devices are not fluke devices.

It'd be interesting to see how many devices were using dark grey in yellow before 2000.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by hapless on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:04PM (#7429590)
All of my older multimeters, from the 80s and 90s, were black or grey.

The yellow/grey contrast is a recent development, and it would surprise me very much if it weren't a deliberate attempt to knock off Fluke.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by periferral on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:57AM (#7429535)
You are joking. All multimeters I've worked with have been yellow. And all multimeters look like ... em... multimeters.

https://www.google.com/search?q=multimeter&safe=active&sourc...

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by caw on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:00PM (#7429557)
The mark is for "contrasting yellow border". I can pick out the Fluke equipment easily from all those images.

It's not protecting the use of yellow, which is why the pure yellow devices exist.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by mikeash on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:12PM (#7429651)
I clicked on ones with what I judged to be a "contrasting yellow border" and only about 50% of them were actually Flukes. Seems this trademark is not evenly enforced.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by davedx on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:20AM (#7429209)
"Sucks"? It's a terrible waste of energy and resources for a frivolous reason.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by larrys on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:12AM (#7429129)
Along those lines here is the actual speciment they submitted when applying for the trademark:

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn75934005&docId...

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by grmarcil on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:15AM (#7429153)
To the contrary, check out all the non-Fluke multimeters with gray bodies and yellow surrounds: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=yellow+multimeter
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by watty on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:03PM (#7429584)
There needs to be more to a patent than a primary color. Should car manufacturers be able to patent "black" cars? What happens when all primary colors have been patented?
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by lsaferite on Thursday March 20, 2014 @09:37AM (#7435412)
In this case it's a TM, not a patent
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by darkarmani on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:36PM (#7429837)
I see a red bordered fluke in that search. Does this mean they own both yellow and red+grey multimeters?
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by RA_Fisher on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:25AM (#7429260)
Who cares? If a yellow border is the innovation that Fluke has to offer, let them be imitated, IMO.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by JonFish85 on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:56AM (#7429525)
I disagree. If Fluke is known by their color scheme, and they are known as a quality product, then they have a valuable reputation to protect. If a friend of mine gets the crappy $15 DMM that "looks just like" my $200 Fluke, then wonders why it isn't accurate, breaks after a couple of months, etc, then Fluke is the one who loses, not Sparkfun.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by lsaferite on Thursday March 20, 2014 @09:42AM (#7435444)
Have you looked at a Fluke next to the SF DMM? They don't look like Flukes. Flukes have a very thick border visible from the front in a very bright yellow. The SF on has a very thin visible orangey yellow border caused by the back shell. The faces aren't similar at all beyond a large dial and display. Very different designs.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by solve on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:10AM (#7429113)
On the other hand, there's strong evidence that Fluke is using excessive anti-competitive practices to manipulate multimeter prices. Evidence:

1) Multimeters can be made for $10 or $15, but Fluke continues to dominate the market with equivalent meters costing 10x more. And don't tell me that these basic multimeters incur significant R&D costs.

"Guilt should be determined in retrospect based on material gain." -- The gold standard for judging extremely powerful companies.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by bananas on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:26AM (#7429263)
Multimeters can be made for $10 or $15, but Fluke continues to dominate the market with equivalent meters costing 10x more. And don't tell me that these basic multimeters incur significant R&D costs.

You've obviously never done any serious electrical or electronics work then. The reason they're so expensive is four reasons:

1. Mains and high voltage work. If you're working with high voltages or massively different potentials, Fluke actually design the boards and isolation circuitry properly. You're not going to get electrocuted by a Fluke meter. It doesn't even take a high voltage, just a bad earth to kill you. Cheap multimeters and even mid range ones tend to ignore this fact in favour of cost.

2. Explosion resistance. If you stick your cheap multimeter in resistance mode and whack ot across a 400v 30A supply its going to blow your hand off. No joke. Fluke - dead meter by design or absolutely nothing and it still carries on working.

3. Reliability. I have a 1989 Fluke 87 that cost me a small fortune. It works fine today, still handles calibration perfectly and is pin sharp and accurate. Other vendors fall to bits, drop out of calibration ranges and pack in completely. I know because I have three meters at any time and the only ones that survive are flukes.

4. They have lesser effect on the circuit you are measuring because the input stage is better designed.

So you're merely putting your life in the hands of a $10 meter.

My current fluke cost me £435 and it was worth every damn penny

Edit: adding some more as I'm not posting this from my phone now:

5. Cheap meters can't do true RMS measurements.

6. Cheap meters have probes without correct insulation.

7. Cheap meters have probes which fall to bits and expose the conductors.

8. Cheap meters have less probe/connection options which are required for more than just passive metering.

9. Cheap meters can't be calibrated at all by calibration services as there is nothing other than a single master voltage reference inside which is usually not a constant current or voltage source but a resistor/voltage divider across the reference voltage. This can drift as batteries drain for example.

10. Decent meters have a better count i.e. 0.00000 vs 0.00 on the displays.

I could go on forever at why a $10 meter is a joke.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by reeses on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:56AM (#7429522)
As a consumer, I find it confusing when "cheap" (in both senses of the term) meters knock off the Fluke visuals.

My first Fluke multimeter was a hand-me-down from my father, and he had made it clear how it was a better instrument. At the time, there were no "Fluke yellow" instruments on the market. They were generally considered ugly.

Fast forward through the 1990s and I'm in a builders supply shop looking at meters. I grab what I thought was a Fluke, got home, and only then realised I had a cheap knockoff. Yes, my fault for not reading, but a large number of second generation tool users have been raised to invest in the products of a few companies that have maintained solid reputations.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by makomk on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:23PM (#7429730)
"At the time, there were no "Fluke yellow" instruments on the market. They were generally considered ugly."

From what I can tell, in the time period you're talking about even Fluke meters weren't "Fluke yellow" though - e.g. http://www.stevenjohnson.com/pics/why-i-buy-flukessm.jpg

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by reeses on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @05:51PM (#7432131)
The Fluke 25 and 27s could be had either in fading black or get-dirty-yellow and fading black. Both came with decaying LCDs for no additional cost.

They definitely used yellow and black in the mid-to-late 1980s, primarily on "ruggedized" field gear. Bench gear tended to look pretty much like most bench gear, as far as I can recall.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by bananas on Thursday March 20, 2014 @10:24AM (#7435673)
Fluke 75 had a removable yellow case circa '86. My father had one.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by gnaffle on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:28PM (#7430292)
The original Fluke 87 was introduced in the mid 90s if I remember correctly, and I think the yellow cases predate that model.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by c0nsumer on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:14PM (#7430202)
I've had a Fluke 87 for years, and one day I was testing inrush current draw on something and the meter stopped working. Why? Because I was using the 400mA fused port, and I'd put ~700mA through it.

For some reason it was that detail and sensitivity that made me realize just how precisely made meters like that are. Thankfully it was just a $7 fuse to fix it.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by IvyMike on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:39AM (#7429377)
>Multimeters can be made for $10 or $15, but Fluke continues to dominate the market with equivalent meters costing 10x more.

Depends what you mean "dominate the market", I guess: go to Amazon or Radio Shack, and most of the multimeters are the cheap and non-Fluke.

Also: Fluke does certainly charge a premium, but they are also not equivalent to the $10 meter. Fluke uses higher-quality (and thus more expensive) components, and it definitely costs them more than $15 to manufacture. This affects the actual electronics to the case to the probes to the buttons.

If you use your meter to measure your batteries and the occasional resistor, you probably don't care. But if you use the meter often, you may start to notice the difference, and that's why people are willing to pay that higher price--it really is worth it to some.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rayiner on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:24AM (#7429238)
There's nothing particularly anti-competitive about not letting competitors use a particular easily identifiable color scheme associated with your product, largely because it has absolutely no functional impact on the product (and in any case, the product is not one where appearance is typically a factor in peoples' purchasing decisions).

The fact that Fluke can sell $150 multi-meters when they can be made for $15 is because of the substantial value people attach to branding. $100 Ralph Lauren jeans are made for $10 in Vietnam or wherever, and the only piece of that product protected by trademark is the little RL label (fashion designs cannot be protected). But that's all it takes.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by chiph on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:43AM (#7429412)
If you open up the case on a Fluke and compare it with a cheaper one, you'll see there's significant differences in construction and design. This isn't because Fluke did it just to justify their higher cost - it's different because it needs to be, to give you safe operation, accurate results, and long life.

I've been through any number of cheap multimeters over the years and finally broke down and bought a Fluke. It's been absolutely solid. Worth it.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by makomk on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:41AM (#7429400)
Yellow and black is probably the closest thing there is to a generic high-contrast colour scheme for multimeters though - everything is associated with one or more manufacturers. Agilent are orange and black, Bosch are green and black or green and dark green, and I think there are companies that could reasonably lay claim to red and blue. Meanwhile black and yellow have long been generic multimeter colours - since well before Fluke moved to their current scheme, I think.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by VLM on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:39PM (#7429861)
"closest thing there is to a generic high-contrast colour scheme for multimeters"

Lets imagine the outcome of two theoretically unrelated possibilities:

1) For safety reasons someone (who?) has purchased an OSHA regulation which now requires that all electricians use high contrast yellow multimeters, yellow indicating their, uh, safety-ness or something.

2) Fluke has paid the .gov to be the only legal yellow multimeter supplier.

I know #2 is true. I suspect but have no evidence #1 is true.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by maxerickson on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:42PM (#7429887)
I suspect you are a space pirate.

What a pointless thing to enter into your widely connected information appliance. If you think it is true and has some merit as an idea, spend the couple minutes to actually inform us, alternatively just don't bother telling us what you think might be true.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rayiner on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:03PM (#7430117)
This is not only unsubstantiated handwaving, but also totally illogical. Maintaining a trademark costs about $500 every ten years, and it doesn't cost that much more to file. So your #1 is made up, and your #2 is totally gutless.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by chillingeffect on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:27PM (#7429772)
that brings up another good point: what happens when there are (say) 8 different major manufacturers and no colors left?

Is it then impossible to sell a product because it would always interfere with someone else's color?

BTW, I agree with other EEs, the Sparkfun meter is not "really great high-quality" as they claim. It will suffice for hobby use, but Fluke's markup is based on having additional quality, not brand recognition.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by rayiner on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:11PM (#7430172)
These concerns are addressed in the Supreme Court's opinion in Qualitex v. Jacobson: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1790530446659521....

1) You can't just apply to protect an arbitrary color. You need to show secondary meaning (i.e. the market associates the color in a certain context with your brand). It is unlikely for that to happen with more than one brand in a particular space.

2) The color can't be functional and can't affect the quality or value of the product. So Apple can't trademark aluminum-colored laptops, nor can you trademark yellow or orange traffic cones.

3) With respect to running out of colors, that issue is addressed on pages 168-169. The gist of the argument is that if people "use up" the high-contrast color schemes, than not being able to use some mark will put competitors at a functional disadvantage, which will invoke the functionality bar mentioned in (2), invalidating the other color marks.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by larrys on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:13AM (#7429141)
"there's strong evidence that Fluke is using excessive anti-competitive practices"

That's a totally different "crime" if you want to call it that. Has nothing to do with whether a company has the right to trademark a particular design which in this case they apparently do.

Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by eli on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:19PM (#7429707)
Huh? How does expensive equate to "anti-competitive"? If anything, wouldn't really cheap be anti-competitive?
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by mikeash on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:14PM (#7429668)
If they're being anti-competitive then they're doing a completely shit job of it. There are about a million models of cheap multimeters available for purchase from about a million different retailers.
Re:Fluke owns trademark on multimeters with "contrasting yel... by JanneVee on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:35AM (#7429346)
If they are able to take higher price with only the brandname why shouldn't companies be allowed to do that?

Also maybe there are some other issues at play with precision, calibration and/or taking higher voltages/amperage? Or just not blowing up if you try to measure the wrong circuit with way too much power?