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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by CmonDev on Friday February 28, 2014 @11:34AM (#7319754)
The only thing needed now is a higher-level version of HTML... Something like XAML for instance.
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by keithwarren on Friday February 28, 2014 @01:23PM (#7320499)
You say XAML in jest but once you get over the learning curve, it is incredible expressive, it will make you hate HTML and CSS.
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by mattmanser on Friday February 28, 2014 @04:15PM (#7321550)
Yeah, but that learning curve is a real bitch.

As much as I hate HTML I never struggled with it quite as much as I struggled trying to feel productive with Silverlight 2/3 for the first 3 months.

But as you say, once you're finally over the hump, it makes you really despise the utter stupidity of HTML and the w3c's design by committee.

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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by pjmlp on Friday February 28, 2014 @05:32PM (#7321996)
Fully agree. XAML is great after one understands how all pieces fit together.

Sadly I get mostly paid to do web stuff.

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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by EdwardDiego on Friday February 28, 2014 @10:43PM (#7323016)
The last time I used it, the styling had some flaws. Trying to set an element's top and bottom border to one colour, with the left and right borders set to another was impossible, as you couldn't address individual sides, only the whole element's border.

The 'fix' was to create two line elements over the borders you wanted coloured differently.

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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by tvxedoman on Friday February 28, 2014 @11:54AM (#7319904)
Like HAML or Jade?
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by CmonDev on Friday February 28, 2014 @12:17PM (#7320063)
Do they have: 1) strong IDE support 2) rich control libraries ?
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by bjcy on Friday February 28, 2014 @12:44PM (#7320242)
XAML doesn't necessarily have strong IDE support, either. Although integrated into VS, it really is no comparison to the "REPL" of HTML/CSS + your favorite text editor and a browser.
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by Spearchucker on Friday February 28, 2014 @12:52PM (#7320295)
Not sure I understand your use of REPL - in Visual Studio you edit XAML in the right pane, and the change is reflected in the left pane as you type. That's more efficient than editing HTML or CSS in a text editor, saving, switching to browser, refreshing page. Can you explain?
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by sehr on Friday February 28, 2014 @01:01PM (#7320351)
That's entirely dependent on your workflow isn't it? I can set up a workspace within dev tools and edit HTML/CSS/JS on the fly and have the changes reflected on disk and on screen without ever losing sight of my work. Add in the networking tools (timelines, profiles etc..) and I have full featured 'IDE' that I can also browse hackernews with.
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by radicalbyte on Friday February 28, 2014 @02:03PM (#7320754)
The XAML editor in Visual Studio was broken for years. Blend, once you learn how to use it, is a much nicer tool.

In any case, unlike HTML you really don't want to be writing XAML by hand.

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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by Spearchucker on Saturday March 01, 2014 @02:44PM (#7325788)
I write all my XAML by hand. Blend is a bit too cavalier for my liking, especially when building for Windows Phone.
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by tvxedoman on Friday February 28, 2014 @12:58PM (#7320337)
1) There are ST plugins if that counts 2) No, though I'm sure you could make do with snippets for now, and web components in the future.
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Re:TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2 by iso8859-1 on Friday February 28, 2014 @07:31PM (#7322476)
web components are coming: http://www.w3.org/TR/components-intro/
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