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Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by runjake on Friday January 24, 2014 @04:50PM (#7118349)
I am not a woman. I am a large, muscular male who doesn't get bothered by anyone.

But it doesn't have to lead to actual physical assault to be uncomfortable or cause negative lasting effects in one's life. The intimidation, the mental abuse aspect of it is enough. If you've been mugged without being shot, it might make a little more sense to you.

And really, he put his hands on her inappropriately, so he's already committed physical assault -- not to get all bleeding-heart emo feminist or anything. But that just ain't right.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by rfnslyr on Friday January 24, 2014 @04:53PM (#7118369)
Funny how far removed real problems are from our society.

"The intimidation, the mental abuse aspect of it is enough."

versus

Collecting wood in a forest 40km away so you can stoke a fire and your family can eat.

Tell the guy to get his hands off you, grab a seat, introduce yourself. Everyone needs an emotional baby sitter and therapist nowadays.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by runjake on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:08PM (#7118463)
Not many people could cut it through pioneer life [1], either. So, I don't get your point at all.

1. Lived in the woods by myself for an extended period. Fun looking back on it now, but was not fun at the time.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by dogecoinbase on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:54PM (#7118767)
This from the guy who lived in his mom's basement learning to code[1] and whose "goal in life" is to get rich in an acquihire[2]. I have some pretty legitimate doubts that you know the slightest thing about either primitive lifestyles and their hardships, or modern lifestyles and their hardships.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7112803 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7052008

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by danellis on Sunday January 26, 2014 @01:20AM (#7124121)
Yeah, but he was right about one bit: "Tell the guy to get his hands off you, grab a seat, introduce yourself."
Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by ljf on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:23PM (#7118915)
At the risk of being down voted, I wish I could upvote the comment above more. :)
Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by ossreality on Friday January 24, 2014 @04:56PM (#7118389)
As I'm reading, all I can think "Are you even remotely serious? We now can't have a discussion about gender without rfnslyr derailing the conversation, this time because he wants to harken back to early pioneer days?"

Your trollish derailment of gender threads on HN is rather telling. Or do you have any point related to how this woman was groped without her consent, repeatedly?

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by droidist2 on Saturday January 25, 2014 @07:29PM (#7123200)
Right, this is like responding "first world problems" to anything and everything. Great, so basically anything except food and shelter is meaningless. What would you like to discuss now?
Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by rfnslyr on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:43PM (#7118697)
Yeah actually I do. I have a huge problem with it. I have a huge problem with: some douchebag acted less than human towards me -> this is how it is like to be a woman in the tech industry.

Next time somebody gives me an off handed remark about something, I'm going to generalize as well and cry wolf online.

It's blowing up a problem that isn't a problem at all, way out of proportion.

I get groped at bars all the time by women, I don't make a whiny blog post about it. Kind of funny she made the post and claimed to "have a thick skin".

She clearly suffered a fair amount of emotional trauma from this rather mild leg grabbing. Did she do something about it? Of course she didn't.

Women in the tech industry is the next phase of Shakespearean drama.

Every time some retarded bullshit gender article meanders across my front page on HN, I'll shit post it. Why? Because HN is not your personal feminist platform. Flood twitter with your personal garbage.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by ossreality on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:47PM (#7118724)
It's very amusing and ironic to me that you are completely projecting the air of "generalization". I didn't see the author anywhere saying "All bitcoin users are like this" and in fact, you'll find me chiding someone else, here, for saying that.

You just want to reduce this to something that you can dismiss and ignore, because it's complicated and you can't hold your own when it comes to the details. And, in this case, you're just putting words in the author's mouth in order to invent a way to demean and dismiss her. Classy.

>Did she do something about it? Of course she didn't.

I don't even know what "Of course" is supposed to mean there, but I'm pretty sure it says something not-so-great about your default position and open-mindedness on this issue.

edit: Can't keep up with your edits (it's okay, I do it too)

>Kind of funny she made the post and claimed to "have a thick skin".

And again, you'll note that this is very much a recount of what happened. In fact, she explicitly said she doesn't think she was violated (and I disagree with her, but that's her prerogative).

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by rfnslyr on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:55PM (#7118773)
The fact that this article even exists means she didn't do anything about it. It's not a helpless matter at all, but she's acting as if this is such a big event it warranted a whole essay on the matter. Like she just couldn't WAIT to leave the male stronghold of this meetup to seek emotional counselling online.

I am very open minded to problems that matter. There is no problem here. She ran into a super duper asshole, didn't outline her boundaries immediately, and instead is further polluting the tech industry with this gender nonsense. Next time some random grabs me by the shoulder that I don't know, I'm going to write an essay on it as well.

Did she get fired from a company because the CEO hates women? No.

Did she get physically assaulted or raped because she's a woman? No.

Is her pay significantly lowered simply due to the fact that she is a woman? No.

Did any significant change occur in her life from this encounter with this ONE douchebag? No.

Those are real problems which beg real discussion. This is an emotionally unstable girl who feels the world revolves around her and her gender. I know the type.

So why do I care? Why is it only women who blog about this emotional hot air?

It creates a false view of the field for other women, and when they go into it after reading crap like this, they assume this is what it's like.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by davorak on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:41PM (#7119003)
> She ran into a super duper asshole

Well not just that. If anyone at the meeting made it clear that the comments that were happening were not appropriate or welcome either I missed it in the article. It most people this creates the perception that it is acceptable behavior according to group standards. I would bet this perception of group standards is studied phenomena that is the default perception by the majority of people. So it seems reasonable that most people would get uncomfortable by the situation.