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Re:Amazon Prime Air by esusatyo on Sunday December 01, 2013 @10:06PM (#6831233)
Hacker News on Dropbox: Why would anyone want this? I can do this already with my home PC, all I need to do is install package xyz and let it run in the background. How does this handle duplicates, this is doomed to fail.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by nemof on Monday December 02, 2013 @08:45AM (#6833549)
I really feel like amazon's service should be called dropbox too.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by hnriot on Sunday December 01, 2013 @10:59PM (#6831460)
Dropbox is for people that can't use rsync+git. For the unix-competent, it's not particularly difficult and we managed for many years with the previous tools, rsync+svn or even rsync+cvs
Re:Amazon Prime Air by sanderjd on Monday December 02, 2013 @12:36AM (#6831894)
Yeah I really miss the good old days when I could take some pictures and all I had to do to send them to my mom was provision a server with a static IP address I could send her along with some links to rsync tutorials. Can't believe Dropbox had to come around and make everything so much harder...
Re:Amazon Prime Air by esusatyo on Monday December 02, 2013 @12:52AM (#6831963)
I'm not sure which one is sarcasm anymore.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by eric_the_read on Monday December 02, 2013 @10:35PM (#6838307)
Don't be silly, all you had to do was just install and configure Apache, and then harden it against 37 types of DOS and malware intrusions and SQL injection.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by wpietri on Sunday December 01, 2013 @11:39PM (#6831643)
I can use rsync and git, and use it for some things. But I'm perfectly happy to use Dropbox too. I like it because it Just Fucking Works on every platform I'm on.

The way I look at it, I've got limited time. I can spend it fucking around duplicating infrastructure, or I can spend it on something that matters more to me.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by 8bitpony on Sunday December 01, 2013 @11:14PM (#6831539)
Guess what? There are millions of people that can't use rsync + git.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by ams6110 on Sunday December 01, 2013 @11:24PM (#6831578)
And they don't read HN either, for the most part. You're not getting anything like a cross-section of opinion of the population here, on any topic.

I'm among those who don't see any need for Dropbox, but readily admit that obviously millions of others do.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by toomuchtodo on Sunday December 01, 2013 @11:44PM (#6831661)
And they're all willing to pay ~$10/month for it to Just Fucking Work. Build things that solve people's problems.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by xerophtye on Monday December 02, 2013 @02:40AM (#6832345)
That's only if you need MORE storage. Heck i am happy with my data limit, and yes, the major attraction is the "Just Fucking Works" part. Its the usability factor. Just cuz you CAN write your own web browser, doesn't mean you wouldn't use firefox or chrome
Re:Amazon Prime Air by bruceboughton on Monday December 02, 2013 @02:58AM (#6832405)
Dropbox is free for the vast majority of people.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by Dylan16807 on Monday December 02, 2013 @09:51AM (#6833933)
Rsync is one-way. Git stores all files twice, and is a pain to purge old versions from. Both require scanning every file per sync, leading to wasted power and minutes of latency.

They do not do what dropbox does.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by fnordfnordfnord on Monday December 02, 2013 @10:53AM (#6834367)
And for people who have to communicate with people who can't/won't/don't use rsync+git.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by MaysonL on Sunday December 01, 2013 @11:41PM (#6831649)
Hell, CmdrTaco on iPod...
Re:Amazon Prime Air by navait on Monday December 02, 2013 @09:55AM (#6833960)
To be fair, I don't really remember the first generation of the ipod being that successful. It wasn't until the ipod mini came out, a vastly superior product to the original ipod, that it became a must have gadget.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by icebraining on Monday December 02, 2013 @05:06AM (#6832780)
It should be noted that CmdrTaco never said his opinion applied to most people. He thought it was lame, and to him, it was.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by code_duck on Monday December 02, 2013 @05:39AM (#6832918)
Reviewers and journalists are held responsible for their opinions to a greater degree than people operating purely as individuals. Cmdr Taco said it was lame, and some people were relying on him to have an informed opinion - and he felt this opinion was well founded enough to broadcast it to thousands of people.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by icebraining on Monday December 02, 2013 @07:43AM (#6833262)
He was neither a reviewer (the product was not even available) nor a journalist. And his opinion was well founded. The iPad didn't have wireless, it did have less space than a Nomad, and "lame" is pure personal opinion.

That post is always trotted out (particularly on HN) as an example of how normal "nerds" are so disconnected from the general public, but what it ignores is that not everyone cares about what the general public will buy. Not everyone is a startup founder looking to sell gadgets to Average Joe. Some of us are just looking from the perspective of our own lives, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

Guess what: for CmdrTaco, and probably for many on Slashdot, the iPod was a crappy player. Deal with it.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by code_duck on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @10:11PM (#6852454)
You've missed the entire point of that example, which is that the iPod turned out to be a 500 billion dollar smash hit that turned apple from a doomed company to one of the top 3 tech companies of the 00s and 10s.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by Crito on Monday December 02, 2013 @12:27PM (#6835000)
> CmdrTaco

> some people were relying on him to have an informed opinion

hahahaha.... Seriously though, his job was to stoke pageviews, not be correct. Slashdot didn't get big because Rob was a prophetic genius or a talented reporter.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by code_duck on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @10:09PM (#6852445)
Unfortunately, for whatever reason the average individual does believe that it's worth paying attention to the opinions of celebrities, regardless of any logic pertaining to their judgment or abilities.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by Semaphor on Monday December 02, 2013 @12:05PM (#6834842)
This feels like a HN myth. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

First top level comment is positive, 2nd says we don't need it, following are again more positive comments.

99% of the thread are positive, most negative comments are regarding presentation.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by Shamanmuni on Monday December 02, 2013 @12:59PM (#6835265)
I agree with you, it's a myth, there's just one comment which is similar to what the parent states, and his objection about not solving the connectivity issue is completely valid. I still use a pendrive in case there's no internet connection. Most of them are congratulations.

What most people don't notice is that many votes don't necesarily mean "everybody agrees with him/her". Many times I have upvoted comments with which I didn't agree but I thought were well reasoned and had validity because I think those comments improve the conversation.

On the other hand, I could agree with comments stating "Great work guys!" but I wouldn't vote them as they offer little to no substance.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by EricDeb on Sunday December 01, 2013 @11:11PM (#6831526)
The comment he's referring to is one of my all-time favorites.
Re:Amazon Prime Air by esusatyo on Monday December 02, 2013 @07:02AM (#6833151)
Here's the original Dropbox thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

I really enjoy reading Hacker News from time to time. It really reminds me how far removed we are from the actual customers.

Re:Amazon Prime Air by repnescasb on Monday December 02, 2013 @05:15AM (#6832830)
Me on dropbox today: Why would anyone want this?

seriously. Sure, the mob uses it, but they also use facebook, skype and whatsapp ... and soon they get their christmal gifts delivered by santa's little drones