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Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by negamax on Saturday November 09, 2013 @05:05AM (#6701236)
Gold is inflationary. There's infinite amount of that on asteroids and other planets. Bitcoin is totally an asset. It will probably have far wider usage than currency.
Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by atmosx on Saturday November 09, 2013 @06:59AM (#6701394)
I wrote a 30+ words comment, but to make it shorter:

* The nature of BitCoin could make it from an asset worth 350 USD to 0 USD overnight.

* Gold has been there for centuries.

I won't even comment on the asteroid thing.

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by lectrick on Saturday November 09, 2013 @02:04PM (#6702690)
> * The nature of BitCoin could make it from an asset worth 350 USD to 0 USD overnight

No. Not unless it stops being traded for anything. Read this:

http://bitcoinsurvey.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/what-is-the-re...

It makes sense if you think about it. As long as 2 parties will accept Bitcoin as a trade medium, it literally MUST have a value in order to carry that exchange value. Whether it's 10,000 coins for 1 pizza or 1 coin for a gold bar.

So no, it will never go to zero anymore unless something as useful and unique comes out which is at least twice as good (due to network effects).

That doesn't mean a portion of the current value isn't speculative. But the speculative value is NOT "all" the value.

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by SilasX on Saturday November 09, 2013 @02:19PM (#6702748)
Grandparent: Bitcoin could fall to 0 USD overnight.

You: Not true, it would only fall arbitrarily close to 0 USD.

Me: Not reassured.

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by lectrick on Sunday November 10, 2013 @02:19PM (#6707985)
If you actually read the article, at the time it was written (months ago, when BTC volume was lower), it calculated a "bottom, minimum" value of about $45 USD.

So if it ever goes back to there, it will most certainly be a buy... which will of course drive the price higher, into the speculative space.

Basically, since the cat is out of the bag, it won't be possible to get completely rid of the speculative portion of the value, but the fundamental portion of the value WILL keep rising (at this rate).

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by SilasX on Sunday November 10, 2013 @03:22PM (#6708253)
I was replying to your comment[1], not the numerous, separate arguments that could have been made in defense of a related point.

I'm optimistic myself about BTC, but don't think your comment as written is a good reason to think so in the context of the GP's point.

[1] specifically, "As long as 2 parties will accept Bitcoin ... it literally MUST have a value ... Whether it's 10,000 coins for 1 pizza ...". That last bit is the "arbitrarily close to zero" lower bound I was attributing to you.

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by hbbio on Saturday November 09, 2013 @09:42AM (#6701732)
Seems a bit like: "You're a startup, I won't use your product."

But like startup customers, bitcoin users exist and eventually the new product takes over.

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by jafaku on Saturday November 09, 2013 @07:40AM (#6701468)
> I won't even comment on the asteroid thing.

Because you can't refute it?

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by TillE on Saturday November 09, 2013 @07:51AM (#6701494)
Nobody will be mining asteroids and shipping the resources back to Earth within our lifetimes. Certainly not profitably.

It's a complete irrelevance unless you're specifically talking about 100+ years in the future.

Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by mrosseel on Saturday November 09, 2013 @07:16PM (#6704295)
this company (backed by high-profile investors) is setting out to do just that: http://www.planetaryresources.com/
Re:Shopify accepts Bitcoin by atmosx on Saturday November 09, 2013 @07:50AM (#6701489)
No I can't. Neither I can refute that you're... Batman!