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Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by shazow on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @11:47AM (#6483136)
Found this in one of the recent HN submissions:

http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ulbric... / Mirror: http://www.scribd.com/doc/172773407/Ulbricht-Criminal-Compla...

According to the filing, they found him through a combination of posting his personal @gmail.com address on the bitcointalk forum from the same account used to market Silkroad. Further, they found that his LinkedIn account somewhat corroborated the timeline/interest in what Silkroad is. Page 24 for the juicy details of how they identified him.

Also there is a section about murder-for-hire in Canada. Pretty wild stuff.

Update: Also he posted on Stackoverflow asking questions about Tor with his real name, then later changed his name. Supremely conspicuous.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by dave_sullivan on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:04PM (#6483258)
"All told, the site has generated sales revenue totaling over 9.5 million Bitcoins and collected commissions from these sales totaling over 600,000 Bitcoins. Although the value of Bitcoins has varied significantly during the site's lifetime, these figures are roughly equivalent today to approximately $1.2 billion in sales and approximately $80 million in commissions."

Incidentally exactly how much Walter White made... That's a strange coincidence, or perhaps one of the clerks that gets paid to make up statistics for drug related criminal complaints is a breaking bad fan...

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by ealloc on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:02PM (#6483698)
So this means the FBI now owns 600,000 bitcoins (5% of all bitcoins)? Probably more, since they also control the (presumably large number of) bitcoin stored in accounts on Silk road.

Seems like this could lead either to the legitimation or deligitimation of bitcoin as the FBI must assess their worth. It also gives the FBI the ability to mess with bitcoin markets if they choose, by flooding supply.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by MichaelApproved on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @03:24PM (#6484648)
These numbers are over the lifetime of the site. I bet many of the bitcoins earned were sold/exchanged. It also includes revenue numbers which was paid out to sellers.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by batbomb on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:48PM (#6484018)
If it's the same person, there's a Ross Ulbricht who has a BS in Physics from UT, and would be 29. Best friends with this guy[1], who lives in SF (from Austin), and declares himself as best friends.

https://twitter.com/RJPinnell

http://renepinnell.com/homepage.html

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by kanzure on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:27PM (#6484277)
I have emails from both of these individuals in my inbox from a few years ago.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by acallahan on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:39PM (#6483544)
I think you should flag this as breaking bad spoilers - not everyone has finished watching the show
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by atlbeer on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:54PM (#6483652)
That's a year and a half old info. It can't be a spoiler forever.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by hansjorg on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:54PM (#6484443)
The anti-spoiler crowd are pretty demanding. A large and vocal group fought hard to introduce prominent spoiler warnings on Wikipedia. There was a time when every other literary work there had a warning that the article might be discussing the subject at hand.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by javajosh on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @03:22PM (#6484642)
It's a strange phenomena, and I'm not entirely convinced that it doesn't imply poor quality entertainment. Good quality entertainment is eminently re-watchable. How many times have I seen "Groundhog Day", or read "Lord of the Rings"? The fact that I know exactly what happens doesn't seem to diminish my enjoyment at all. In fact, it seems like with every re-experience I pick up some new detail or insight.

OTOH I can totally understand spoiler alerts with respect to sport and sporting-type events (like politics). It usually does seem to diminish the pleasure of watching a game when you know the outcome.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by pyre on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:11PM (#6483758)
I don't think that the actual amount was mentioned until the last run of episodes. Prior to that I only remember it being a huge pile of cash that they had "stopped counting."
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by pavel_lishin on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @03:21PM (#6484628)
I don't think that an amount of money constitutes a spoiler, unless that very specific amount has something to do with a specific plot point. ("Ouch, my cancer! If only I had $80,000,001 exactly!")
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by BlackDeath3 on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @04:52PM (#6485306)
I always err on the side of "it's a spoiler". If it's not in the show's trailer, I treat it like a spoiler.

I know that I'm personally much more sensitive to spoilers than a lot of other people, so it always annoys me how somebody says something thinking they're not spoiling anything without fully thinking through the implications of what it is they're saying. It's almost arrogance, really, to simply assume that you know what will and will not spoil some given experience for another person.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by samstave on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:15PM (#6483791)
Have you seen Titanic? It sinks.

Seen JFK? He dies.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by alexeisadeski3 on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:37PM (#6484339)
WHAT???? More spoilers!!
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by pavel_lishin on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @03:21PM (#6484631)
Jesus dies.

The Zebra did it.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by grbalaffa on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @05:08PM (#6485403)
> revenue totaling over 9.5 million Bitcoins

According to this that's close to the current total supply of all bitcoins:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Total_bitcoins_over_time.p...

The graph shows the supply in 2013 at around 9.5 million, same number as what the article claims.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by nullc on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @09:29PM (#6486565)
At the moment:

    "total_amount" : 11784364.79571183
Though some of that is lost forever, of course.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by leoedin on Friday October 04, 2013 @11:11AM (#6495780)
It's worth remembering that the "Revenue" number would count bitcoins twice if they were used in two transactions. If bitcoins used to buy something on the site were then used by the seller to buy something else, the revenue would be twice the total bitcoins used.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by gdubs on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:12PM (#6483337)
That's a real page-turner. I found this particular item funny on page 30:

  "Based on my training and experience, I know that criminals 
  seeking to hide their identity online will often use 
  pseudonymous usernames to conceal their identity."
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by mst on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:09PM (#6483740)
http://chasingtruthcatchinghell.com/2013/04/10/because-youre...

> Today, those specific, articulable facts take the form of sweeping generalizations that officers assure us are based on their “training and experience.” This phrase comes from the Evidence Code section stating the sources an expert can use to form their “expert opinion” in court. Today, police are taught to repeat this phrase on the witness stand when they want the court to take their bullshit speculations and generalizations as actual evidence.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by zorked on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @04:12PM (#6484998)
Well, I read the PDF and every statement of something based on "training and experience" seemed completely reasonable. What it means is "this is so obvious I shouldn't need to prove it". Maybe this is abused at times, but not here.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by heyitsnick on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:44PM (#6483589)
"Based on my training and experience" seems like boilerplate for whenever a supposition is introduced.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by stephengillie on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:40PM (#6483964)
Does your training and experience inform you thusly?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by jerfelix on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:33PM (#6484317)
So, Agent-1, based on your training and experience, can you conclude, Agent-1, that simply because someone uses a pseudonymous username to conceal their identity, Agent-1, that they are a criminal?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by mikeyouse on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:34PM (#6483503)
That statement is much less absurd in context.

He posted a question about connecting to a Tor hidden service with PHP on Stack Overflow. He didn't realize it puts your full name next to the question (and he had signed up with his real name), so literally 1 minute after posting the question, he changed his full name to a "pseudonymous username". He then changed his SO registration information from firstname.lastname@gmail to a fake name at a fake server.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by __david__ on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:36PM (#6483934)
> …so literally 1 minute after posting the question, he changed his full name to a "pseudonymous username".

If this is true then how did they catch it? Does SO keep records of all name changes? Did they give that info to the FBI? Do the FBI scrape SO and save all versions of the data? Was this data collected from PRISM?

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by underwater on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:19PM (#6484217)
I assume the FBI subpoenaed all information related to the account from SO, which would likely include a full history of changes.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by CodeCube on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:26PM (#6484272)
The exact question I had ... though I guess if they're tracking all network data, then they could have just gone back and looked up the history of the SO post.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday October 03, 2013 @11:02AM (#6489363)
>he had signed up with his real name //

Seriously?!

Like "hey guys I'm starting a server for the illegal trade in drugs, but it's on Tor so nobody will know who I am, sincerely I M Anidiot".

Oh and just in case my names not distinctive enough here's my Gmail account so you can trace back all my IP connections and verify when I'm online and such.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by samcrawford on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:20PM (#6483401)
Fantastic find and read!

Interestingly, the FBI agent that wrote that document and requested his arrest warrant is the same one cited as tracking down Sabu of LulzSec: http://nymag.com/news/features/lulzsec-sabu-2012-6/index3.ht...

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by haxxorfreak on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:20PM (#6483828)
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by epsylon on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:49PM (#6484028)
Thank you for that. Why do the US legal system still use typewriters in 2013 ?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by mpyne on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @03:36PM (#6484712)
They probably literally just scanned-in a printout of it. Likely they do this to avoid the issues of improper PDF redactions that got famous a few years ago. Do the redaction on real paper (or not) and just always scan it in, and it's nearly foolproof. And trust me, we get a lot of fools in the government. ;)
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by Aloisius on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @03:38PM (#6484727)
Is there some evidence that this was produced using a typewriter?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by autodidakto on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @05:24PM (#6485502)
The font is obviously "American Typewriter".
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by jessaustin on Thursday October 03, 2013 @09:43PM (#6493267)
Is that the one Dan Rather's source used?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by asciimo on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:49PM (#6484029)
Thank you!
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by cheez on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:05PM (#6483278)
General rule of thumb if you're doing something illegal: shut up.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by r00fus on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:50PM (#6484035)
So… don't talk about Fight Club?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by makmanalp on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:05PM (#6483273)
This gets very scary on around page 21.

EDIT: But interestingly looks like canadian police can't confirm.

Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by LaSombra on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:19PM (#6483397)
Very interesting to know how the government agents worked on this case and some of the steps to identify DPR
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by teebs on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:49PM (#6483624)
I just read through it. They introduce a lot of evidence from their forensic analysis of the Silk Road servers, but they don't seem to explain how they got access to the servers. Did anyone find that in there?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by jstalin on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:11PM (#6483333)
Very interesting. Start on page 24 for the technical details.
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by xSwag on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:27PM (#6483447)
Link to that pdf is down, anybody got a copy of it?
Re:FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests o... by shazow on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:29PM (#6483467)