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Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by breckinloggins on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:32PM (#6479503)
It looks... okay. I'll leave the technical issues (such as non-responsive elements) to people with more skill to critique them.

My main issue with the redesign is that it's too generic. It doesn't look that much different than any other site. My personal preference would be something very much like this new design but that incorporates more of the signature things that make Slashdot look like, well, Slashdot.

A good example of a site that pulls this off is reddit. Reddit actually looks quite a bit different from the way it did when it launched, but it still looks like reddit. I think this is primarily because reddit doesn't like launching "THE" new design every once in a while. Its strategy is more of constantly tweaking the look of the site. I think Slashdot should take this approach.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by taftster on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:19PM (#6479709)
I mean, that's nice and all. But Slashdot, in design terms, has been locked in the past for so long without incremental design updates - it's likely that anything more than very simple cosmetics would be perceived as a radical change (much like this).

If Slashdot would have been doing incremental design changes like Reddit, then possibly this beta wouldn't look "unlike" Slashdot. It's just that they are attempting to radically catch up or risk being left a relic of Web 1.0 forever.

Slashdot's previous design changes have always, for me, made the experience worse, not better - so I for one appreciate this new direction and welcome our new /. design overlords.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by posabsolute on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:55PM (#6479990)
Can someone tell me why the images are fading in on the homepage on desktop? Is that a performance enhancement? bandwidth saving?

Is that for help mobile browser, it's just weird to me, I just want to see the image and it seems to be affecting my scroll at times.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by vacri on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:55PM (#6479842)
I had the same response. It's 'nice', but it looks washed-out and generic. There's no part of the design that looks like a signature difference. The colour scheme seems to have moved from 'bold and clear' to 'gentle pastel'.

Personally, I like 'authentically digital' as a web design ethic, but I can't wait for 'flat' to be superceded by the next fad.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by AmVess on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:49PM (#6479591)
Longtime /. user here, and this redesign will probably kill the site...not that it's as healthy as it used to be.

I'm not being melodramatic here, but it's crystal clear that Dice have no idea what /. is about.

At least HN and Ars haven't been ruined by PHB's.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by dombili on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:16PM (#6479693)
Agreed. That commenting system looks so bad. I don't know what they were thinking.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by taftster on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:21PM (#6479725)
As opposed to the old commenting system? If slashdot would have just stayed with the original commenting system (which didn't look much unlike HN), they would have likely stayed relevant. I don't think this beta does any more harm than previous design efforts.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by dombili on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:24PM (#6479738)
Just because I'm not a fan of the new commenting system, doesn't mean I like the old one. I certainly don't. But I definitely prefer the old system to the new one.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by Amadou on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:53PM (#6479607)
What are they trying to fix?

Maybe they have a requirements document somewhere that defines the goals of this redesign, but I don't see anything like it on their blog post. Just a couple of hand-wavy statements that don't describe the changes in any level of detail.

If they can't tell us their goals and how the changes achieve those goals, all I can do is take the changes at face value which is basically too much white-space and reduced functionality for reading comments.

Also not happy about the reliance on googleapis - as far as I can tell, every significant amount of javascript added to slashdot over the years has been of questionable usability at best. Maybe it is nicer under the hood, but from the user's perspective all they've done is add complexity without any corresponding improvement of the user experience.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by alphakappa on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:59PM (#6479854)
Slashdot has never been a beautiful website. I remember the previous redesign - it made the site look a bit different, but it was essentially the same. (And the html is not very pretty either)

However, Slashdot has also always been about the discussion, so a lack of prettiness is easily forgiven. I feel that this redesign fails on this count, since the new design while being still average, it makes the discussion page less usable. Instead of the wide discussion page that made it easier to navigate large threaded discussions, you now have a narrower page that makes the comments feel like an added afterthought.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by prawn on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:37PM (#6479531)
Looks a couple years behind but my main criticism is of those images. In most cases, they appear largely irrelevant but are quite visually dominating and not strongly tied to their respective stories. I instinctively check the note beneath it for a clue as to which story it relates to and see just the image credit.

It seems like they're using images for the sake of it and the end result is less useful information in each screenful of content.

Imagine if Hacker News put in an image like that every 5-10 headlines!

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by rwg on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:42PM (#6479806)
I Twitter-whinged about this a few weeks ago, except I used an Ars Technica story as the example.[1]

I think it's a case of "everyone else is doing it, so we should, too!" Or maybe I'm completely underestimating the "oooh, shiny!" effect on a website's average visit duration.

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1. https://twitter.com/areuugee/status/380384096762867712/photo...

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by dredmorbius on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:53PM (#6479609)
Reminds me of Google Plus's War on Words.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by Miyamoto on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:43PM (#6479561)
Slashdot should be imitating HN or Reddit's design. Liberal usage of whitespace is NOT a good idea for news aggregators. (too slow to scan content)
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by toomuchtodo on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:45PM (#6479573)
I'm surprised Reddit doesn't offer a service where you can have your own "clone" of Reddit (similar to how you can pay for a white label Stackoverflow subdomain). Like a SaaS replacement of vBulletin or PHPBB.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by Fuzzwah on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:18PM (#6479704)
They allow you to just start a new subreddit. Or download the source and run your own....
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by bane on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:17PM (#6479906)
Already exists (though a bit dead) http://www.reddit.com/r/slashdot
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by throwaway2048 on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:19PM (#6479715)
the reddit stack is open source (beyond their secret sauce anti-spam stuff) so you can easily run run your own reddit clone already.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by jedberg on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @02:55AM (#6481080)
It does. You can start your own subreddit, point your own domain at it, and then style it to your liking.

It's not super obvious, but the functionality has actually been there for years.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by taspeotis on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:59PM (#6479634)
> similar to how you can pay for a white label Stackoverflow subdomain

[citation needed]

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by mhp on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:05PM (#6479874)
You cannot pay for a white label subdomain. You can however license the engine for internal use only (but pricing makes it only make sense for large institutions).

citation: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/16054/is-the-stack-e...

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by scott_karana on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:13PM (#6479896)
It looks like at one point, they did used to offer whitelabels:

http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/83591/how-to-run-a-p...

Sorry I couldn't find a better link on short notice :)

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by bmslieght on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:53PM (#6479611)
OMG they killing it slowly. The new owners do not get that the most important part is able to read the comments. I dont^wdidn't go to /. because each article had photo. I wnet because it filter news to news for nerds and the comments were informative/funny/insightful/interesting or just plain troll.

Poor CmdrTaco

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by elorant on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:39PM (#6479793)
Too much white space. Plus it looks more like a blog rather than a news site. Why go with only two columns and not taking advantage of the rest of the screen real estate. Sure it looks tidy, clean and it’s responsive but I can’t say I’m impressed.

By the way, what happened to the tags? I don’t see them in any article.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by lyndonh on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:48PM (#6479819)
I gave up reading Slashdot* but I have started reading it again occasionally. The new design looks like any other blog; I might give up again if they go with this look.

Problems with Slashdot that caused me to leave: * Stories getting later * Less relevant stories * Stories posted with opinionated comments in the summary * Commenting got slower and waiting unusably long for a preview * Horrible moderation; e.g. add lots of irrelevant links to Wikipedia = +5; too many (un)"funny" comments; way too many meme comments * Anti patent stance with no understanding of what patents actually are

I don't see Reddit as an alternative. Reddit is where you go to waste time. I'm not interested in captioned photos, TIL or AMA.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by bane on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:16PM (#6479902)
Well, this absolutely destroys the commenting system.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by joeblau on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:42PM (#6479552)
Was the problem the design of the site or the community? I was never really a big /. user but from everything I've read, it seemed like the community was the main issue.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by AmVess on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:18PM (#6479706)
I just looked at my comments and submissions for the last year. 12 comments and zero submissions. Before, I'd punch out 12 comments in a day.

The problem started with the lateness of the submissions...easily trailing other sites by days at times. I quit posting submissions because they'd never show up, despite being fairly interesting topics on other sites.

Then the quality of the comments started going downhill, largely a product of the overall malaise that fell over the site brought about by the rather mentally torpid powers-that-be that ran the site.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by toomuchtodo on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:44PM (#6479566)
The community. Definitely the community. I used to be a frequent Slashdot reader, but moved on to Reddit.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by taspeotis on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:52PM (#6479606)
For me, Slashdot killed Slashdot. The editors increasingly did not care about editing the content that was submitted (and not just from a grammatical standpoint). I stopped subscribing to Slashdot's RSS feed just in time to avoid shit like this [1] appearing in Feedly.

To be fair to Slashdot, however, they have removed the "stuff that matters" tagline from visibility on their site (it's in the source).

That, and Hacker News seems to be about 3 days ahead of /. so it's kind of redundant to read it. Unless I want to learn about new keyboard shortcuts. I read Ars too, which is sometimes a bit behind HN but also covers different material.

[1] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/08/26/0010239/the-greatest...

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by rgbrenner on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:03PM (#6479646)
I started reading slashdot in like 99.. the editors didn't 'edit' the stories back then either. In fact, as far back as I can remember people have been complaining about the editors no longer doing their jobs.. which is weird because as far as I could tell, they never did them to begin with.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by joeblau on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:51PM (#6479602)
So to me, this is like a mechanic saying "The engine on your Datsun is rusted out, let's fix your car by painting it Ferrari red." I mean I just went to the site and it looks like Gizmodo or Engadget 3 years ago.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by gutnor on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @09:33PM (#6480108)
The community indeed. I'm still a /. reader, but I have to say, it is very occasional that I do not know what the comment will be before opening them.

Most of the +5 comment are traditional /. "meme" (OSS good, closed-source bad, MS bad, Google good, ...) and their counter of course. That has always been the case to some extend (that's /. DNA), but it has gotten to the point that it is extremely hard to find any type of information whatsoever just an endless battle of people throwing rumours (you would think that the majority of /. reader are board member of major tech corp), group-think opinion or unrelated info at each other to "win".

It reads now like a political blog for teenagers.

HN has great comment, to me that the closest to reproduce the /. experience of 10 years ago (although it could use a good flamewar between friends once in a while) But even the more chaotic reddit manage to show interesting comments on top.

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by jff on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:50PM (#6479595)
Talk about non sequitur...
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by toomuchtodo on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:42PM (#6479556)
So they're going for the Lifehacker/Gizmodo/Engadget sort of look. Huh.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by colmvp on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:32PM (#6479497)
Doesn't seem responsive to wider screens, i.e. fixed width beyond a certain point and wasted space.

Images also seem way too big. Seems like they want to go more of editorial (de-emphasis on ratings, emphasis on visuals).

Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by flycaliguy on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @10:21PM (#6480241)
I'm reading some slash dot comment sections and although the jokes remind me of the good old days (hot grits, n*...) the quality stinks. That site is better left a 15 year old memory.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by contextual on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @10:10PM (#6480206)
Slashdot, concentrate on the mobile version. Most of us read /. when we're in bed and supposed to be sleeping.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by _sh on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @11:36PM (#6480456)
I do my sleeping at work, you insensitive clod!
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by nl on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:38PM (#6479951)
I remember Slashdot before it went green (circa 1997?) From memory it was black & white I think.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by richbradshaw on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @04:07AM (#6481262)
Wasn't it only designed a couple of years back? They had that competition to redesign it IIRC.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by pippy on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:25PM (#6479457)
I still frequent Slashdot - I'm not that impressed. I'm reminded by digg 2.0
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by kunai on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @06:30PM (#6479490)
Seems to be following all of the recent clichéd design trends. /. always had a distinctive style, and that's been bastardized. Not impressed.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by SeanLuke on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @08:42PM (#6479959)
Fixed width. :-(
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by rhizome on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:51PM (#6479828)
Looks like Talking Points Memo.
Re:Slashdot redesign is now in beta by InclinedPlane on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @07:14PM (#6479686)
Neat, now it looks like every other blog out there. That's.... good for them I guess, they're brand didn't seem to have much value of late. Seems like maybe there are better things to put effort into though