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Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by applecore on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @12:06AM (#6203941)
> you must work from home with that kind of setup.

Or, you have a private office with a door that closes.

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by mhd on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @02:24AM (#6204288)
A high-quality headset, maybe even with some noise-canceling features should work okay, too. It wouldn't be that much different from a call center, and those don't usually get their own offices, either.

Sure, not the ideal, distraction-free environment, but neither is a cubicle farm.

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by WalterSear on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @07:00AM (#6205016)
Voice recognition isn't good enough for that yet: hyper-cardioid mics can only do so much.
Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by mhd on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @08:21AM (#6205223)
Really, Dragon can't cope with someone sitting ten feet away and speaking at the same time? So I guess no listening to radio, either. Is it just the specifics of speech or is it that noise sensitive.

Maybe someone should do some kind of voice rec "groupware" then, where the relatively louder results of the other person are used to filter out false positives on my end...

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by tavisrudd on Sunday August 18, 2013 @01:01AM (#6231711)
The mic I used in the video can actually cope with very noisy environments. With lesser mics, speech recognition is useless with even mild background noise.
Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by JackpotDen on Thursday August 15, 2013 @08:14AM (#6217309)
I think you need your own office in order not to distract coworkers
Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by rnovak on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @12:17AM (#6203966)
the day the average programmer gets an office, well...

I don't even get a cube where I work

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by georgemcbay on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @12:26AM (#6203989)
Mentioned this on HN previously but as a nearly 40 year old developer who has been developing professionally for nearly 20 years -- it used to be the norm for programmers to get their own offices, even just the regular joe programmers... Places really tight for space might put two guys in a very spacious shared corner office...

A few years into my career the idea of cubicles caught on and quickly became the norm, and now of course we're stuck with these horrible open offices that are, in my experience, just absolutely dreadful for productivity; but since everyone is doing it nobody really notices anymore.

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by itafroma on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @02:07AM (#6204256)
> A few years into my career the idea of cubicles caught on and quickly became the norm, and now of course we're stuck with these horrible open offices that are, in my experience, just absolutely dreadful for productivity; but since everyone is doing it nobody really notices anymore.

You can largely thank Jim McCarthy of Microsoft fame for that, who in the mid 90s coined the concept, "beware of a guy in a room":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY6BCHqEbyc

https://blogs.msdn.com/b/david_gristwood/archive/2004/06/24/...

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/06/dont-go-dark.html

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by cocoflunchy on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @12:54AM (#6204063)
Absolutely relevant article by Joel Spolsky: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fieldguidetodeveloper...
Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by shadeless on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @01:27AM (#6204145)
Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by JabavuAdams on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @02:27PM (#6207362)
The fundamental issue is a mismatch between crafting and coordinating roles.

When I'm in a coordination role, open concept is better because I can hear everything in the office and route information accordingly.

When I'm in a crafting role, open concept is death to productivity.

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by sybhn on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @02:05AM (#6204246)
it's funny. The place i'm at now, in the valley and a successful post IPO SaaS company, management believes that open space and engineers running around, yelling and waving hands is sign or productivity. I have to escape to the kitchen to get anything requiring the tiniest level of concentration.
Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by wwweston on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @09:44PM (#6209513)
Yep. The difference in one role (management) the conditions you're describing read as signals of activity. In the other role (development) it reads as noise interfering with the activity you're working on.

A "successful" company probably already has a culture that's going to be hard to change, but where management is trainable, you can sometimes improve things by giving them something else like else to focus on, like commit logs, test suites, or ticket updates.

Re:Using Voice to Code Faster than Keyboard by sybhn on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @01:28AM (#6210043)
Glad you bring that up. I'm a manager. I do mostly the things you mentioned to give my team some breathing room, and have to WFH when i want anything serious done. As you can imagine if the ambience is bad for me, it is horrible for my team. I try to help with some WFH days here and there. But it is a culture thing. It's in the freaking DNS of the place. Only so much i can change.