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Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by adestefan on Friday July 19, 2013 @09:48AM (#6070091)
Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company. Nice try though to inject a completely worthless comment.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by waxjar on Friday July 19, 2013 @09:54AM (#6070129)
Their servers are located in the US according to the article.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by jasonlotito on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:26AM (#6070344)
The GGP started off by saying:

> American company…

Then, noticing the critical error, the GP said:

> Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company.

Replying to the American company part.

> You said: Their servers are located in the US according to the article.

So, the servers location have nothing to do with whether the company is American or not. And while that might have a bearing on certain facets of the topic as a whole, it's meaningless in this context. Basically, what you said does not change anything.

Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by untog on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:43AM (#6070463)
And while that might have a bearing on certain facets of the topic as a whole

As in, the actual point, which is that your e-mails are liable to be searched by the NSA.

Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by jasonlotito on Friday July 19, 2013 @01:57PM (#6071771)
You mean, not the first point brought up by the GP, was which to say wrongly that it was an American company?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Fastmail moved servers outside the US, then it would be in a better position as a non-US company than if it was a US company with servers outside the US?

Despite what some might believe, where a company operates from is actually important, regardless of where the servers are hosted.

Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by comrh on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:46AM (#6070475)
The point wasn't if the company was American, but if the NSA will have the reach to read your emails and with American servers, I believe it does.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by jasonlotito on Friday July 19, 2013 @01:54PM (#6071745)
So then why was it the first point in the GPs post? And the fact that it's not American means that it could offer hosting outside of America and provide better protection than an American company hosting outside of America.

Believing that it being an American company or not is not important is silly.

Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by yapcguy on Friday July 19, 2013 @01:31PM (#6071608)
Although Facebook were looking to buy Opera last year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/29/facebook-opera_n_15...

Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by wyclif on Friday July 19, 2013 @04:12PM (#6072648)
It's actually not a worthless comment. Norwegian ownership makes absolutely no difference to the privacy equation wrt the NSA if Fastmail's servers are colocated in the US.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by chipotle_coyote on Friday July 19, 2013 @08:22PM (#6073780)
It's a kind of worthless comment, but not for the obvious reasons. :)

People are operating on the equation of "hosted in America = possibly accessible via PRISM = compromised by the NSA," which is understandable given all the recent news. Perhaps you don't trust the assurances that the NSA's computers are only scanning metadata by default, only flagging suspicious keywords that then have to be processed by a human agent before they go ahead and actually start scanning your real email which of course they will usually only do with a warrant obtained in secret from a secret court that pretty much never turns down any warrant request!

Okay, but those very reassuring reassurances actually only apply to American servers. Communication going between servers in America and international servers is just as likely to be targeted and quite possibly more likely to be subject to deep scanning. We have to throw in "likely" and "possibly" because, as with all things NSA, we really don't know. But if you're concerned about data interception, it's very likely not relevant whether FastMail's servers are located in New York, Norway, Australia, or the Fortress of Solitude.