Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by cellis on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:57PM
(#576900)
What am i supposed to do?
Imagine i am a very ADD person and I don't know what to click. You need a big DOWNLOAD or SIGN UP button, otherwise you are squandering your 5 seconds that i've allowed you.
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by ckinnan on Thursday April 23, 2009 @11:36PM
(#576938)
Same issue for me-- I couldn't readily determine whether this was an open source project, like MediaWiki, or a hosted service that I'm going to pay to use. A lot of the corporate and pricing info I look for was under a different URL, EdGenius, which adds to the confusion.
The signup button should lead to a page explaining exactly what I'm signing up for, rather than the existing lightbox, which has an unattractive little form offering no details.
I like the overall presentation feel on the homepage; you just need to provide more direction for the new user.
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by inconvenient on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:16PM
(#576851)
Overall, it seems to work pretty well. Under "prettyURL", the "Tiny URL" is often longer than the "Meaning URL". Use a shorter hash key. Also, you might want to have some basic content that loads instantly along with the "loading" graphic (e.g. Logo, basic description).
What user base are you going for, and how to you plan to monetize it?
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by hwijaya on Friday April 24, 2009 @03:12AM
(#577128)
Few things on my mind as i look at it. You need:
1. Tagline - Make people understand what you're doing within 1 - 2 seconds. Most people don't read at all.
2. Better call to action - I generally prefer to have one priority over another. Making it blue and red communicate the same priority, and remember Barry's paradox of choices? It made me not clicking both. I learned call to action a lot from here: http://www.uxbooth.com/blog/good-call-to-action-buttons/
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by diN0bot on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:25PM
(#576858)
cool. i signed up and made a private space. it feels like you're giving a lot of value to users, though i don't have anything concrete to say about that....i'm always vaguely looking for private wiki space for small collaborators.
biggest question: will you still be around in 6 months? i've had not so good experiences in the past with finding "a really cool private collaborative wiki" (free) that suddenly stopped working...
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by TheAmazingIdiot on Thursday April 23, 2009 @11:11PM
(#576914)
I've got a habit on middle-clicking when I want to open X content in a different tab when I know there's more content on the main page (like HN).
Now, when I see those "GeniusWiki Documentation Center" and those other boxes with content, the links aren't links. They're javascripts that force me to go away from that main page. I usually just go away when I see things like that.
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by steveneo on Thursday April 23, 2009 @11:24PM
(#576921)
OK, I guess this site can not fit your requirement:(
Actually, only one page for entire site which the normal users can see(another page is system admin).... For all links, they are some kind of Ajax stuff, mean your page does not refresh entirely, only necessary content is loaded. This makes the site running very fast(initial loading is slow and the hosting maybe a problem as it is just 128M VPS)
Re:Ask HN: Please review my startup
by webignition on Friday April 24, 2009 @03:02AM
(#577122)
I agree that JS-only links are a not a good approach. This forces the user to relinquish control over how they explore the information space.
It is perfectly feasible to have a hyperlink to an actual page (i.e. a 'normal' hyperlink) and then run some JS on the click event to achieve the current behaviour.
This will ensure your links work when there is no JS and when people just want to right- or middle-click a link. A normal left-click on the link will activate the JS as is currently the case. Best of both worlds.
Imagine i am a very ADD person and I don't know what to click. You need a big DOWNLOAD or SIGN UP button, otherwise you are squandering your 5 seconds that i've allowed you.
The signup button should lead to a page explaining exactly what I'm signing up for, rather than the existing lightbox, which has an unattractive little form offering no details.
I like the overall presentation feel on the homepage; you just need to provide more direction for the new user.
At the risk of being redundant, I would say that your startup shows a great deal of promise.
What user base are you going for, and how to you plan to monetize it?
My targeting is some team, organisation. As you can see, it has download version. 5 users is free.
1. Tagline - Make people understand what you're doing within 1 - 2 seconds. Most people don't read at all.
2. Better call to action - I generally prefer to have one priority over another. Making it blue and red communicate the same priority, and remember Barry's paradox of choices? It made me not clicking both. I learned call to action a lot from here: http://www.uxbooth.com/blog/good-call-to-action-buttons/
Good luck!
biggest question: will you still be around in 6 months? i've had not so good experiences in the past with finding "a really cool private collaborative wiki" (free) that suddenly stopped working...
The reasons is, it is my part time job, I have no worries about my living budget.
Anyway, you also can download and hosting yourself.
increase the size of your TRY NOW button 5X, and you'll notice a higher conversion rate.
Now, when I see those "GeniusWiki Documentation Center" and those other boxes with content, the links aren't links. They're javascripts that force me to go away from that main page. I usually just go away when I see things like that.
Actually, only one page for entire site which the normal users can see(another page is system admin).... For all links, they are some kind of Ajax stuff, mean your page does not refresh entirely, only necessary content is loaded. This makes the site running very fast(initial loading is slow and the hosting maybe a problem as it is just 128M VPS)
It is perfectly feasible to have a hyperlink to an actual page (i.e. a 'normal' hyperlink) and then run some JS on the click event to achieve the current behaviour.
This will ensure your links work when there is no JS and when people just want to right- or middle-click a link. A normal left-click on the link will activate the JS as is currently the case. Best of both worlds.