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Re:Hacker News is depressing by orokusaki on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @12:55PM (#5744956)
The Internet is not yours. If you put content on the PUBLIC Internet, consider yourself to be consenting to any abuse the Internet as a whole wishes to dish out in return.
Re:Hacker News is depressing by rahoulb on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @01:22PM (#5745170)
So if I see you walking down a PUBLIC street and you are talking loudly, it's acceptable for me to smack you round the head with a baseball bat for being too loud? Or do we expect people in a civilised society to have some higher standards of behaviour?
Re:Hacker News is depressing by vacri on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @06:21PM (#5747362)
Bad analogy - you are escalating the situation from talk to violence. It's nothing like talking on the web about how others talk on the web. Your analogy would better suit "I didn't like what he said, so I DDoS'd the server" - escalating whats going on.
Re:Hacker News is depressing by thenomad on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @01:00PM (#5745009)
Really?

So if a person decides to post a picture of themselves on their blog, they're consenting to having that picture photomanipulated onto hardcore pornography then emailed to their family and co-workers, for example?

Re:Hacker News is depressing by orokusaki on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @01:09PM (#5745068)
Exactly.

Otherwise, include a license with your work, state that it is copyrighted, and still expect people to say whatever they want about you or it... Or, put it on your own private network, known as Not-The-Internet.

Re:Hacker News is depressing by itsybitsycoder on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @01:47PM (#5745370)
The 1886 Berne Convention first established recognition of copyrights among sovereign nations, rather than merely bilaterally. Under the Berne Convention, copyrights for creative works do not have to be asserted or declared, as they are automatically in force at creation: an author need not "register" or "apply for" a copyright in countries adhering to the Berne Convention.[10] As soon as a work is "fixed", that is, written or recorded on some physical medium, its author is automatically entitled to all copyrights in the work, and to any derivative works unless and until the author explicitly disclaims them, or until the copyright expires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright

Re:Hacker News is depressing by bch on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @03:44PM (#5746330)
Honest question -- is it conceivable that the work is never "fixed" on some physical medium? Years ago, I thought "internet law" was a silly concept -- but as in the case above, the letter of the law might not be enough to support the spirit of the law.
Re:Hacker News is depressing by itsybitsycoder on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @04:03PM (#5746474)
Re:Hacker News is depressing by bch on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @05:16PM (#5746898)
But is memcached on RAM?
Re:Hacker News is depressing by itsybitsycoder on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @06:41PM (#5747510)
I'm not super familiar with memcached, but either memcached on RAM "is sufficiently permanent or stable to permit it to be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated for a period of more than transitory duration", or memcached is talking to a persistent database (i.e., HDD) in the background. Because I can read posts on that blog that are over a year old.
Re:Hacker News is depressing by roguecoder on Wednesday May 22, 2013 @08:31AM (#5750279)
The recent Blizzard case found that making a copy of something into RAM created a fixed copy of it, I believe.

Remember, intellectual property rights are all thought-crime laws. They don't have to make sense.

Re:Hacker News is depressing by angersock on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @04:20PM (#5746565)
So, either have a laugh about it, or you don't put personally-identifying info up on the 'net.

Shocking, I know, that maybe oversharing is a bad idea without some permissions mechanisms in place.