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Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by ams6110 on Saturday February 09, 2013 @05:58PM (#5194459)
Yes, he sounds like every 15 year old I know (including my own son) who is absolutely convinced that school is useless and a waste of time. That said, for most people the purpose of school is to prepare them to be able to support themselves and their families, and it sounds like he's basically able to do that now.

School is something you can always come back to, but once you start into the family/kids part of your life it becomes a lot more difficult for most people. The best time to be in school is when you don't have any responsibilities to support anyone else.

Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shantanubala on Saturday February 09, 2013 @06:02PM (#5194479)
I think Neil Tyson does a beautiful job of explaining why basic education is important:

There are people who say “I'll never need this math -- these trig identities from 10th grade or 11th grade.” Or maybe you never learned them. Here's the catch: whether or not you ever use the math that you learned in school, the act of having learned the math established a wiring in your brain that didn't exist before, and it's the wiring in your brain that makes you the problem solver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0E-9uJgDZU&feature=youtu...

Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by InfiniteLoopx64 on Saturday February 09, 2013 @07:08PM (#5194699)
Can I not learn "math" wiring from doing other activities that ACTUALLY benefit me, such as programming? The very act of owning a business and such is giving me the PRACTICAL knowledge while still building the wiring. It's win win.
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shantanubala on Saturday February 09, 2013 @07:12PM (#5194706)
I didn't say you can't -- I was simply adding to this:

> That said, for most people the purpose of school is to prepare them to be able to support themselves and their families, and it sounds like he's basically able to do that now.

The real question you have to ask is whether you can do both (impractical and practical) -- if you can do both, then it is clearly better than doing one.

You may not realize it now, but a lot of things that seem impractical can become very useful (or at the very least, fascinating) when provided with the right context. For example, if you ever want to learn about how your computer works on the inside, knowing basic physics will give you better perspective on what's happening. More obscure stuff like Quantum Tunneling starts appearing in technologies like NAND flash memory -- it's not necessarily practical to know all that, but I'm very happy that I know it.

Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by InfiniteLoopx64 on Sunday February 10, 2013 @02:55AM (#5195770)
Funny you mention Quantum tunneling as I love delving into quantum mechanics and various inner topics such as tunneling. I also enjoy going into the philosophical elements of said quantum mechanics. Cool thing is, I do all that in my free time, not at school. I like to keep an open mind and use the information on the internet to broaden my knowledge.
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shantanubala on Sunday February 10, 2013 @11:14AM (#5196770)
Then you're on the right track :-)

Forget I even said anything.

Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shawndumas on Sunday February 10, 2013 @04:57PM (#5198110)
have you seen minute physics on YouTube?
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by InfiniteLoopx64 on Sunday February 10, 2013 @07:29PM (#5198641)
Yes and I very much enjoy it.
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shawndumas on Sunday February 10, 2013 @08:00PM (#5198708)
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by danielweber on Sunday February 10, 2013 @01:07PM (#5197182)
that ACTUALLY benefit me, such as programming

You don't know what you don't know. You can have a fine career in programming without math -- but with math you can have many great careers.

Keep taking math and working hard at it. Stop when it gets too hard.

Two of my three favorite classes in college were math classes -- combinatorics and algorithms.

Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shawndumas on Sunday February 10, 2013 @04:16PM (#5197943)
More than that; your smart and get things done. if and when you needed to learn the math needed to solve a roadblock you'll use exactly the same skills you used to learn Linux administration/networking/programming
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by victorhn on Saturday February 09, 2013 @06:25PM (#5194560)
He is succesfully managing a Minecraft hosting company. I don't think he is lacking in the problem solving skill.
Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shantanubala on Saturday February 09, 2013 @07:16PM (#5194719)
Yes and no -- learning calculus (which is offered in many high schools) or advanced physics (he's in a private high school, so I'm assuming their classes and lab activities are well-funded) is still different. The real question in all this: is this a false dilemma? Is it really impossible for him to pursue both?

If possible, learning physics and managing a Minecraft hosting company is clearly better than just the latter.

Re:Ask HN: Friend's 15 year old wants to drop out, I've been... by shawndumas on Sunday February 10, 2013 @04:45PM (#5198055)
not every 15yo is successfully running their own business

and we're not talking a lemonade stand. he's doing the heavy lifting at a hosting company; networking, Linux administration, programming.

all of which are disciplines in their own right

do you really think he'll have trouble rounding himself out by reading broadly?