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Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by LoganDark on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:35PM (#50472959)
I dislike Microsoft as much as the next guy, but many businesses impacted by these outages are completely innocent and don't deserve these consequences.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by azalemeth on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:43PM (#50473084)
That's a very painful lesson in "the cloud is just someone else's computer" to a crowd that normally are exposed to ideas like "software and IT are not our core competency"
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by hdgvhicv on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:29PM (#50473754)
When your system is down once a decade your boss yells and it’s your fault

When your outsourced system to Microsoft goes down every few months your boss can’t yell at you

Outsourcing is about shifting blame elsewhere

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by bawolff on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:52PM (#50474097)
Which is why service level agreements were invented.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by antonvs on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:08PM (#50474294)
The idea is that it's someone else's computers that are managed more comprehensively than you could reasonably do yourself. But if you choose Microsoft to provide such a service for you, I don't know what to tell you.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by NetMageSCW on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:48PM (#50476113)
The truth is they are still managed better than most can reasonably so themselves.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by antonvs on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:05PM (#50476288)
I begrudgingly have to agree.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by TaLiTr on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:44PM (#50473105)
If your system keeps people alive by relying on 100% Microsoft uptime, maybe they deserve some blame?
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by LoganDark on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:53PM (#50473228)
Absolutely.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by joseda-hg on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:54PM (#50473246)
They do government and medical infra, those systems should be resilient but...
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by Detrytus on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:21PM (#50473618)
To be honest, Microsoft has much better chance of actually achieving that (almost) 100% uptime than your company's own IT department self-hosting things.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by 6031769 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:28PM (#50473735)
Github would like a word.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by boomlinde on Friday November 13, 2026 @02:49AM (#50479812)
If the self-hosted email infrastructure goes down, roughly one company is deeply affected. When Microsoft's server goes, entire industries and governments will simultaneously be unable to conduct business as usual.

From the individual's perspective Microsoft might seem like the better choice if they can achieve higher availability, but the societal cost is so much greater when the one basket you've put all your eggs in breaks even if everyone holding their own egg on average results in more broken eggs per year.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by jjice on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:25PM (#50473680)
I like to dogpile on M$ as much as the next guy, but this feels like a heavy strawman.

> I dislike Microsoft as much as the next guy, but many businesses impacted by these outages are completely innocent and don't deserve these consequences.

At no point is "keeping people alive" mentioned. Businesses use email for everything. Businesses usually don't care about where their email server is hosted. They just want to send emails. They shouldn't have to care either. I don't put blame on a business that happened to choose Outlook, one of the largest email providers, to host their email.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by boomlinde on Friday November 13, 2026 @02:22AM (#50479592)
> Businesses usually don't care about where their email server is hosted.

Deeply irresponsible.

> They shouldn't have to care either.

According to what realistic principle?

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by fock on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:50PM (#50473180)
their bosses decided for the cloud and they pretended not to care!
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by SoftTalker on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:00PM (#50473323)
It's a shame there isn't a well-standardized, free and open protocol for delivering email that could be run on inexpensive modestly provisioned hardware.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by datakan on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:42PM (#50473971)
It’s a shame we still use email in 2026
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by mrguyorama on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:45PM (#50474013)
Why
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by destitude on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:57PM (#50474161)
They then get you by spam filtering any emails not coming from the "industry leaders".
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by NetMageSCW on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:49PM (#50476118)
It’s not just about email.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by cozzyd on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:18PM (#50475816)
I mean, they made us take down our departmental run email (presumably postfix) and forced us to make them aliases to university-wide exchange (with crappy support for open source mail clients no less). So I don't think my org is Innocent here...
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by NoPicklez on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:57PM (#50477111)
Of course they're innocent, but many business also can't afford nor want to employ people to host something like an email service for them.

I'd rather Microsoft host it for me than have to maintain a team of people with Microsoft Exchange skills running either on a cloud environment (similar issues) or on my own infrastructure.

I for one don't miss the days of Exchange going offline or having issues and being the person having to try figure it out.

Microsoft has much better reliability than MOST companies.