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Re:Anthropic IPO by mrdootdoot on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:19PM (#50470753)
The right question is - if you were really on the verge of recursive self improvement, why would you need Wall Street at all?
Re:Anthropic IPO by skeptic_ai on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:41PM (#50471130)
Because you can get all that cash to do it faster and then you can own the world.
Re:Anthropic IPO by beezlewax on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:12PM (#50471585)
But now wall street owns you
Re:Anthropic IPO by ben_w on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:25PM (#50471815)
Wall Street owns a bit of you, and Wall Street is weirdly open to shares with limited rights.
Re:Anthropic IPO by scottyah on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:38PM (#50472024)
It's either Wall Street, the government, or something else. Public shares are the current easiest way to spread value to the people en masse, more so if you donate shares to the kids like Michael Dell.
Re:Anthropic IPO by almog on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:21PM (#50471741)
Just as not every monotonically increasing function diverges to infinity, Recursive Self Improvement doesn't necessarily lead to ASI or whatever they're calling it these days. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite: that RSI might actually show how far LLMs really are from AGI/ASI.
Re:Anthropic IPO by r0m4n0 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:38PM (#50472037)
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Re:Anthropic IPO by ryan29 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:54PM (#50472290)
I don't know what the technical definition of RSI is, but I think AI needs a good feedback loop for improvement rather than just "thinking" about things in isolation.

I've never seen it solve a problem by "thinking harder", but as soon as I give it access to a feedback loop where it has control it can solve a lot of problems, It sort of feels like brute force, but it's not because it's informed about what it focuses on.

    theory > change > test > assess > rollback and retry)
It's the same thing I do, but at machine speed. I had Claude Code help me figure out a sysadmin type problem in about 15-20m one day and I don't think I could have done it on my own in a day.

I think the bigger issue is how you convince people to give those findings back to the system. Either you lie about what you're training on or you have to give people a stake in the benefits. For example, I still needed some level of expertise to track down my issue, so why should I publish that so Anthropic can train the next model on it and rent the knowledge back to me?

Re:Anthropic IPO by moritzwarhier on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:19PM (#50472715)
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Re:Anthropic IPO by bertmuir on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:22PM (#50472756)
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Re:Anthropic IPO by jiveturkey on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:31PM (#50472904)
because you need an exit for the investors.
Re:Anthropic IPO by ratelimitsteve on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:37PM (#50472983)
probably because even without true, no human in the loop RSI hardware expenditure and power requirements are currently higher than the entire capacity of earth if we did literally nothing other than support AI

Though the truest of true believers also see themselves as one day eliminating scarcity as a concept so it might just be that profit doesn't motivate them.

Re:Anthropic IPO by andriy_koval on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:13PM (#50473482)
> why would you need Wall Street at all?

they still need many billions in compute, while it is not clear if RSI will provide strong revenue gain, so they propose Wall Street to take part in gamble.

Re:Anthropic IPO by aeternum on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:41PM (#50473948)
Because time and capital matter. If you have a model that is 20% better(say more compute efficient) but also have 50% less compute than a competitor: you lose.