I think he clearly did something wrong. It just doesn't seem that bad in comparison to the current shit our leaders do weekly. We're in an age of morally corrupt leadership across the board in the United States.

And the way to fix that is to start holding leaders accountable. So the insistence that it's wrong to somehow hold Jensen accountable here is a pretty absurd angle for the exact "But but but we don't hold leaders accountable here" people to take.

You want leaders to be held accountable? Look, a leader who clearly made bad and dumb and wrong choices, and a simple opportunity to celebrate them facing accountability. Can you support that?

>or committed fraud

We're just gonna keep shoving the illegal GPU trade with China under the rug I guess.

Innocent unless proven guilty.

But yes, the fact that Nvidia advocated for relaxing exports to China and that he sold billions of GPUs to shady Singaporean companies is now obviously under major scrutiny.

I agree. And to the conspiracy theorists: what is more likely? That an impossibly rich guy who thinks he is the center of the universe does something as entitled as this? Or that there is some shadowy coup going on that just checkmated him? Human nature doesn’t need that much encouragement.

> committed fraud

The jury is still out on this, re the circular financing mess with AI

We don't know anything about his cheating and it shouldn't matter.

We don't know his relationship with his wife, what their stands on cheating even stands.

You can argue its an image issue, but thats a problem of the press and marketing and not that he might have cheated.

His wife is an adult and is for sure not poor, so its not a situation were she has to stay with him.

I do believe it either has to do with the whole spy story or he did something he really shouldn't have.

I never mentioned cheating?

I said that the missteps is having sex with subordinates and chinese spies.

Even the "chinese spies" is just unsubstantiated 'she's chinese so she should be a spy". She's not even chinese iirc, isn't she singaporean? so it's like suspect by ethnicity.

> so it's like suspect by ethnicity.

Suspect by payment from ... TenCent? AFAIK. Her company got money from Tencent and after every longer meeting with Jensen, someone from Tencent flew in and had a meeting with her. At least that is what I remember hearing.

In Wikipedia no mention of TenCent at all. In another writeup it's mentioned, but nothing clear.

Was Alice's company supposed to be the only company getting Nvidia chips (which they deny doing anyway). Or one of many and Chinese companies did it with many different others?

If many, why is her relationship specifically important or special from that aspect?

Again, I can understand snooping for confidential early information from him. But "she got with him so that this single company gets chips"?

You mentioned, as the first big point:

"Having sex with your workers and chinese spies is obviously not the kind of behavior that reflects that."

Fair though you didn't say cheating, but it undermined (at least by reading it) the main argument you brought up later regarding chinese spies

Mate, it's the same, having sex with subordinates is serious.

If, as a CEO, the location and interaction of your penis ever becomes well known, then you are failing as a CEO, outside of a few very specific cases.

If it was some middle manager who got fired for screwing a subordinate you'd see the typical "don't shit where you eat" comments. My guess is people are upset because their stock is down 20% over the last month because of this drama.

I think both nvidia AND jensen will be doing quite fine 5 years from now.