He didn't sleep with a subordinate - Alice Huang was an Nvidia client, not an employee.

There's been more than one. I'm talking about Kimberly Powell.

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Apologies, I was unaware of Jensen's embarrassing parallelism when I wrote my comment!

It's just 2 being public. When you see 2 ants in your house, its never just 2 ants.

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Lots of people meet in the workplace, it seems a really US thing to be so hung up on it.

Ok. And?

And? I guess there's a few people on HN that are sleeping with their co-workers and their wives don't know about it and they're feeling a little guilty.

There is always an awful lot of defense and downplaying of infidelity on hn. It is common but less common then the number that dont.

It’s more of a recent thing in the US too[1]. It started aggressively declining in the early 2000s (along with almost every other way except for online and bars). Though I think there is a general stigma in the US these days for “meeting at work” unless under certain circumstances, like 2 new hires hooking up, or 2 people at the same company but they don’t work together. Anything else and people are gonna start questioning the power dynamics and a bunch of things that make it not worth the hassle. Maybe it was the Lewinsky case, maybe it was the popularization of workplace abuse, maybe it is the bipartisan increase in judgement casting and virtue signaling.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/18h7k9g/ho...

[2] https://data.stanford.edu/hcmst

Meeting in the workplace is not the issue. the superior/subordinate relationship is. The power imbalance creates liability. Hard to prove "I feared for my position."

Re: his wife, there is absolutely no way he would admit to some kind of open relationship thing in public, that would be even worse PR. Sleeping with an exec.. personally I don't care, this is incredibly common and there is no actual legal problem if there wasn't favoritism.

Why are you going so far out of your way to invent reasons why he secretly didn't actually cheat on his wife and to ignore the substantial corporate risk of non-disclosed relationships that create conflicts of interest?

I just feel that personal misdeeds should stay in that realm, and also a ban on relationships in the workplace like we effectively have now has kind of been bad for our culture broadly... you can call it a "legal risk" but at the end of the day, if there was no favouritism then nothing wrong happened besides some form to HR not being filled out.

Separately, when I look around at all the billionaires and CEO's causing immense harm to the world, Jensen is near the bottom of that list.. Musk's tantrums have global geopolitical implications including wide cultural shifts, elections and deaths. An actual convicted rapist is president of the country.

But we're all supposed to be salivating over firing this guy who has by most accounts been an incredible founder and leader over cheating or selling a couple of GPUs to China? I think it's just sad seeing this guy get punished given the amount of moral corruption amongst our leaders.

Jensen's behavior is also very consequential...

Are you his PR agent? Is your argument seriously he had open relationship with his ~70 year old wife?

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Musk slept and has a child with Shivon Zilis who was his subordinate at the time, didn't seem to matter that much

Just to clarify their child was via IVF. Which seems to be a common thing with Musk.