What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children

Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by hoherd on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:48AM (#50441158)

There was a time when I liked having intricate data about things because it was interesting for me to learn about my own world. That rosy-eyed picture was polluted by surveillance capitalism, and it's gotten to the point where I'd often rather write things down on paper or in a markdown or yaml doc rather than use an tracker app, just because I know that my own hand-written data isn't one profile in a global data set used to squeeze value out of me.

Also, after reading the free part of the article, I propose the word "pramopticon".

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by embedding-shape on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:22AM (#50441671)

Same, early 2000s I remember dreaming about having some wristband or something that would read all the "data" from my body and automatically know what's wrong and so on, even dreaming of being able to have "automatic journals" created from dreams and what not, my imagination was the limits, collect all the data, create miracles!

Then Snowden happened, and Cambridge Analytica, and Event X and everything else. Now I'm the same, all "family data" lives on harddrives that are physically in my home, I prefer paper notes over anything on my computer, for my journal at least, and my perspective is basically that secrets are impossible over the internet. If you want something secret, it cannot go through internet pipes even once.

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by tavavex on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:15AM (#50442417)

Technically, the wristband dream isn't totally dead. Like you said, the real poison pill is internet access. As long as tech is physically walled off from bad actors who really really really want to take a look at it, it's not impossible. But as 'the future' comes for us all, the idea of computerized, but not connected devices becomes more of a pipe dream.

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by red-iron-pine on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:12PM (#50443959)

the biggest companies in the world are the bad actors, and they're in bed with the scummiest US government in history.

it is, indeed, "not impossible", but I could also win a Nobel prize or sleep with Sidney Sweeney -- not impossible, but probably never gonna happen.

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:53PM (#50444539)

Isn't it a shame? Comparing what we could build with what we ended up with.

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by codeulike on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:17PM (#50444040)

Pramopticon

Nice

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by acdevlin42 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:16PM (#50444877)

I'll be stealing said term myself since it's perfect. Depressingly so, but still perfect!

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Re:What Constant Surveillance Is Doing to Children by augment_me on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @06:51PM (#50447974)

It could happen given the reverse engineering efforts that are possible with the LLMs.

I think there will be a nice time window before all hardware is released with some sort of DRM, and while losses from people who reject the surveillance (similar to AdBlock) are small enough, where you will be able to hack this hardware to run for yourself only.

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