People are upset because their "code of conduct" extends beyond the purview of the project.

You may not participate if you hold and espouse ideals contrary to theirs in unrelated spaces.

Read the CoC again: https://github.com/gleam-lang/gleam/blob/main/CODE_OF_CONDUC...

It doesn't police peoples' personal beliefs outside the community. It only says that while participating in the community you agree not to harass people and try to contribute in a positive way.

I wonder if you have past experiences that are coloring your interpretation of this, because I'm really unsure where you're getting any of this from.

Eh, the controbutor covenant thing does have a tendency to attract people that are really into culture war and internet drama.

That said, their CoC does not block anyone from merely using the language.

People working on an open-source language aren't 19-year-olds on twitter, you're using the wrong heuristic here. They're there mostly to talk programming and work on a project together. The CoC is pretty standard language that you'd find at most conferences you attend. It specifically enumerates bigoted actions because several contributors are members of the LGBT community. The last thing many of them want is to deal with culture war nonsense seeping into their fun hobby.

> The last thing many of them want is to deal with culture war nonsense seeping into their fun hobby.

This is bullshit.

Typically we are talking about the same category of people that become Reddit mods. Those are full blown adults where internet drama and culture war nonsense is their actual hobby. The open source thing beneath it is the side project.

It's the reason why I avoid getting involved with open source communities like billionaires avoid taxes.

That said, my original point is not to avoid Gleam as a language. The language itself looks pretty interesting. You don't need to stare at the CoC to use the language.

> People working on an open-source language aren't 19-year-olds on twitter

You don't say? https://x.com/louispilfold

> "the maintainer is a legitimate communist. i will not be supporting this language"

What type of individual attaches their identity to this type of quote? Cringe.

I mean, sure he's on Twitter but he's in his 30s...

I am honestly a bit confused because this whole comment chain looks like someone is starting culture war and drama? But you mean that the people who use gleam tend to be into culture wars, not the OP poster in the chain?

> But you mean that the people who use gleam tend to be into culture wars, not the OP poster in the chain?

Er... No?

I think I was clear that you can use the language without getting involved with the drama related to the community behind the codebase.

I'm gonna be honest, based on this thread it sounds more like it's repelling people that are really into culture wars and internet drama.

Culture wars come up in every Gleam thread. How often do you see culture war comments in a Rust, Elixir, Javascript, Etc thread? Essentially never. The Gleam founder's bigotry is a distraction at best.

I dunno about the others, but the icon for the Rust discord is the Rust logo superimposed on the pride flag, so they are not subtle about their position on the topic, so it has been a topic of discussion in that community.

Whatever confirms your priors.

What is interesting here is that most likely I am on the same side of the political aisle as the people there.

I still find that sort of talk insufferable. Gives me mid-2010s "woke" bullshit vibes (god the slang of my contemporaries is horrid).