Or, it's just objectively ugly and cringe, which it is.

Nothing about design or looks is objective. Lots of people like the design. Dont assume your opinion is objectively 'right'.

Correct and true. But if someone has such a poor grasp on the meaning of the word 'objective', is the discussion even worth it?

I may as well at least try to educate the ignorant!

No, it objectively failed. That's why they are not going to make it anymore. "Lots of people" do not like it.

You seem to like moving goalposts.

Nobody said anything about it not failing, it certainly did fail just like the Ford F150 Lighting before it.

Liking something is subjective and lots of people like the design of the Cybertruck. Just because you dont like it doesn't mean everybody else doesn't as well.

We're talking about a parent who said their kids hate the cybertruck (like most people) with someone claiming that's because the parents influenced them. Occam's razor is that it's just an ugly vehicle, which it clearly is.

Sure but kids don’t generally boo at ugly cars, they just don’t really notice them.

I think the cybertruck is orders of magnitude uglier than any other vehicle, so I think it's an expected response.

N64 graphics vehicle.

> and not the merits of the object itself

This is interesting to say given that by most objective measures of what constitutes a good truck, the cybertruck is a bad truck.

You have absolutely no idea what you are babbling about and are driven by only hatred and ignorance.

> objective measures of what constitutes a good truck

There is literally no such thing. But regardless, in this subthread, we are discussing the response of children to the pure aesthetics of the truck (or lack thereof) vs. the coached, politicized reaction to what it is claimed to represent.

There are plenty of objective measures of what makes a good truck. Payload capacity. Towing capacity. Towing range. Stopping distance when at GVWR. Stopping distance when towing at or Max Towing Capacity. Does standard lumber fit in the bed with or without the tailgate open. If it requires the tailgate to be open, does it provide factory installed tiedowns to be able to safely carry cargo with the tailgate open.

There are, of course, plenty of subjective measures such as NVH, amenability to modification through the aftermarket, total cost of ownership, offroad capabilities, etc.

From everything I've seen, some of which OP mentioned in an edit, points to the Cybertruck being a terrible truck seemingly designed by folks who have never owned/used a truck. And again, that is ignoring Elon's politics.

No there's not.

> Payload capacity.

Fighting against truck size, MPGs

> Towing capacity.

Fighting MPGs, possibly diesel prices

> Towing range.

Only matters on electrics, everyone else goes to the gas station.

> Stopping distance when at GVWR.

I don't max my truck out, and I don't really think others should, either.

Anyway, maybe you can see that objectively, I'd rather have a Nissan Hardbody than whatever Superduty Diesel you have in mind.

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If the Nazi salute wasn't political enough. Children going through WWII in their history classes might dislike Cybertrucks independently of their parents.

It's always an excuse and everyone else's fault that things are politicized. The same people telling us to leave every social problem to the Invisible Hand get fussy when it actually manifests.

"nazi salute"

God you people are retarded.

Denying it will not stop it from being true.

You don't need to pretend any longer, you can openly embrace expressing your political opinions with your salutes. With the masked federal agents kidnapping and murdering citizens, even people who weren't paying attention previously have realized what MAGAs want for society.

> The same people telling us to leave every social problem to the Invisible Hand get fussy when it actually manifests.

Yep. This is the world the Supreme Court handed us with Citizen's United. Now that money is speech, we all have to accept that when we buy things, our money can be used against us.

This is the world they wanted, and if you hate cancel culture, then you need to get on board with fixing the damage from Citizen's United... not raging against regular people who are doing exactly what they are supposed to do, and using their money as speech.

What you buy is your politics now. It fucking sucks, but look at it with clearer eyes.

Absolutely. I am sad for these kids and their families. This is not how you raise curious, open-minded children.

Totally, what kid would boo something without being preconditioned to hate it? Humans can never separate concepts in there heads. Either you’re good or you’re evil. Have news for you all, we are all both. Not saying I support that guys behavior, but he’s done some impressive stuff to further mankind.

Quite something how many posts here seem to default to "Those children who do not share my opinion, they must have been brainwashed. It's the only explanation."

I mean, fair point. But it sure does smell like the original commenter's kids have been brainwashed. "Booing" a car or having a hateful attitude towards a car without any external influence? I actually don't think the Cybertruck looks good - at all. But all my kids are amazed by it. And we haven't spoken to them at all about Elon.