News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscribers (personal accounts). Parent comment

Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by gkcnlr on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:57AM (#50367449)
The sole reason LLMs has gotten this good is because their aggressive expansion has been accompanied with literally this. The amount of uncredited information these models have been fed must be astonishing, also terrifying.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by MisterMunchkin on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:01PM (#50369218)
Why do you think they’re getting into consulting now?

Imagine all those tasty confidential IP and contract documents they have ingested. You couldn’t buy those.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by synalx on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:03PM (#50370753)
I think the heavily subsidized subscriptions are exactly for this purpose - the training data they generate is worth the high subsidy.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by red-iron-pine on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:07PM (#50371533)
i mean openai basically said as much, no? it's free for all so that they can train the models better and get real world interaction data.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by cma on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:49PM (#50372035)
Yes, Altman called it the data flywheel in 2022.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by terramauthe on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:50PM (#50375334)
yeah, but in 2026 the interaction data of the average user isn't adding much to training. only the really exceptional users.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by cma on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:00AM (#50390387)
They can filter for the exceptional users, but the data flywheel is also about getting access to private codebases, not just the interaction in the chat.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:41AM (#50378944)
They're almost certainly making a profit on subscriptions.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by cj9 on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:53AM (#50391262)
Right, but they are also certainly looking to make higher profits overall by avoiding having to pay for large amounts of (confidential and/or private) training data.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by jpardoe on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:22AM (#50392610)
Seems smart.
[ Parent | on HN ]