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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by synalx on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:03PM (#50370753)
I think the heavily subsidized subscriptions are exactly for this purpose - the training data they generate is worth the high subsidy.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by red-iron-pine on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:07PM (#50371533)
i mean openai basically said as much, no? it's free for all so that they can train the models better and get real world interaction data.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by cma on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:49PM (#50372035)
Yes, Altman called it the data flywheel in 2022.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by terramauthe on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:50PM (#50375334)
yeah, but in 2026 the interaction data of the average user isn't adding much to training. only the really exceptional users.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by cma on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:00AM (#50390387)
They can filter for the exceptional users, but the data flywheel is also about getting access to private codebases, not just the interaction in the chat.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:41AM (#50378944)
They're almost certainly making a profit on subscriptions.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by cj9 on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:53AM (#50391262)
Right, but they are also certainly looking to make higher profits overall by avoiding having to pay for large amounts of (confidential and/or private) training data.
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Re:Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscrib... by jpardoe on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:22AM (#50392610)
Seems smart.
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