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Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by aarushyadav on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:01PM (#50341849)
Yep, we have been quite set on nose pads to keep them comfortable. I will keep you updated with the designs!

The decoding is done via a companion app on your laptop or phone in the cloud, but end to end latency is still quite fast, under 500ms usually.

To begin with we don't plan to have a wake word, but rather a trigger key on your connected device that you're entering text into (pressing Alt for example), similar to Wispr Flow. We're doing some R&D into the silent speech equivalent of voice activity detection, so we have a low power basic RF detection always-on, not enough to decode speech from but enough to detect rough movement, and when it detects speech-like activity beginning to start we can trigger full sensing within tens of ms. This would likely ship as a software update a few months after shipping, though.

The voice change demo is something I've thought about actually, but we never got around to doing. Might film it soon :)

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by vessenes on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:05PM (#50341917)
Super cool. For a cool voice change demo we'll allow a gb200 over low latency wifi :) elevenlabs has deals with a number of professional actors and voice actors for licensed uses, seems like you could probably find an ethical and cool co-brand opportunity in there.

Have fun building this! It's worth doing.

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by IHLayman on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:25PM (#50343192)
Wait. You are taking the RF response, sending it up to the cloud to interpret, and then sending the result back? Hard pass from me, sorry. Cool tech, but I don’t want my internal thoughts anywhere near the cloud. Also, this would mean I couldn’t use something like this on the subway when the phone signal goes out intermittently, right?
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by aarushyadav on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:31PM (#50346346)
Fair enough! We take data security and privacy very seriously and have built many safeguards to prevent even us from accessing the raw data in the cloud. At some point in the future we hope to launch local inference models too!
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by snackbroken on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:13PM (#50346708)
Respectfully, talk is cheap. Every company says they take security and privacy seriously even after their database has been breached and their customers' plaintext passwords and credit card details have become public information.

If you were actually serious about prioritizing privacy above securing an ongoing service relationship you would ship local inference as the default and only (possibly later) offer a cloud service as an optional add-on for those who want/need it.

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by johnhtodd on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:59PM (#50347027)
This is the gate for me. I've put a deposit down, but need to see how this is going to be run locally before I'll actually pay for them. There is absolutely zero chance of me sending everything that goes to my "keyboard" to my system via a cloud, no matter how many assurances are provided. Maybe I can see that being necessary on mobile (maybe?) but on a laptop it is a full-stop "no" - I have lots of horsepower, this needs to work 100% locally. I might be OK with doing a cloud-assisted "training" interval, but once complete, there should be no requirement for network connectivity for production use.
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by coldspoon95 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:48AM (#50351935)
Same for me. I put the deposit down but will pull out if it doesn’t come with local inference. Makes no sense for my thoughts to go to the internet. I’m ok with having slightly poor local inference quality compared to the cloud one. And one can encrypt the local inference to prevent reverse engineering the weights etc.
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by kaonwarb on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:12PM (#50347565)
The commercial reality I’m sure they’re dealing with is that the percentage of users who care enough to deal with everything required for local inference is nowhere close to large enough to make it into an initial launch.
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by ComputerGuru on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:02PM (#50344491)
I just want to say 500ms isn’t fast.
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by aarushyadav on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:30PM (#50346332)
Yes, this is the unoptimized speed while we are in development. We are working hard to make it much faster for production!
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by vessenes on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:51PM (#50346964)
Also I note from your comments here you don’t plan on local inference - that seems like a huge self own, provided the model is less than like 2b params. I’m not saying people won’t in practice prefer your cloud version, but you have this huge uphill battle ahead of you on privacy which can be wiped at the stroke of a pen with “yep it will run on your Mac.”

You can get both markets (ease of use and technical) by allowing it. Also i would bet that you gain almost no product security locking off local inference - the hardware is the hard bit. Once someone has your hardware in hand it will not take them long to reverse and build their own processing layer; you’ll need to fight those people on patents and product quality.

Heck for a v1 just allowing local sensor data would probably be enough for the tech enthusiasts. But please don’t lock this off from the get go - it makes the sale harder and I don’t think it gives you much in return.

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by joshspankit on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:31PM (#50347257)
Agreed.

Cloud processing can be tempting as the primary revenue stream, but it entirely cuts off those users who cannot send arbitrary PII over the internet (regardless of encryption promises).

It also invites the (especially now-LLM-empowered) enthusiasts to reverse engineer it.

Instead, consider selling the glasses with >20% profit, and give local users a cheaper subscription to something else (maybe the model updates?) so they can also help keep the company sustainable.

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by pipe01 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @04:41AM (#50349923)
They did say they hoped to support local models in the future

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50346346

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by nolroz on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:47AM (#50351929)
I will happily pre order once a local option is available at launch
Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by nextaccountic on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:49PM (#50347823)
> The decoding is done via a companion app on your laptop or phone in the cloud, but end to end latency is still quite fast, under 500ms usually.

Why don't you do this on the phone? You don't want to have your proprietary tech on the user device? Or maybe you wanted to save the recording on your cloud anyway so you can train on it later or otherwise use the data?

Re:Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making ... by eptcyka on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:29AM (#50349488)
Is there a way to not have someone inspect me uttering profanities under my nose in the cloud? I.e., can I self host the inference?