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Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by setopt on Sunday October 25, 2026 @04:10PM (#50235579)
> are there solutions for communication when international links are cut?

How far can you scale wireless mesh nets?

Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by kmacdough on Sunday October 25, 2026 @05:40PM (#50236320)
In theory, there is no reason it can't scale indefinitely using something similar to IP. It's already a self-building network. The hard part is how you incentivise transit nodes. Currently that's what ISPs and backbones provide. They are incentivised to interconnect because that's their core business model. So a truly decentralized Internet requires a decentralized incentive system.

This would enable circumvention, but it's also pretty easy to triangulate radio signals, so it's fairly easy for a belligerent organization to track that someone is sending something.

Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by solyin on Sunday October 25, 2026 @05:53PM (#50236401)
> In theory, there is no reason it can't scale indefinitely using something similar to IP.

I'm sorry, that just wrong. Gupta-Kumar capacity scaling law (2000) says that as you add participants, each participant gets less bandwidth, until it becomes impractical. Imagine a room with 10 people talking in it. Easy. Now imagine 10,000. Hard to have a conversation if it's still all ad-hoc.

Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by hdgvhicv on Sunday October 25, 2026 @06:24PM (#50236636)
You have to increase the width of the mesh.
Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by salawat on Sunday October 25, 2026 @10:35PM (#50238420)
Someone ends up having to act as a hub. The more you gear for that job, the easier you are to target, and the more worth it it is to target you.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, you have to remember that all tech is predisposed on a functioning society with cooperative people to move your packets from A to B.

Tech cannot solve the problem of Trust. Quite the opposite. It amplifies to immense degrees. In short, if you're looking for tech to save you because your Government is doing something shady, you're at the wrong level. Tackle the government.

Sad, but inevitable.

Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by hdgvhicv on Monday October 26, 2026 @02:02PM (#50248144)
Not the hub. A node in a mesh. Remove yourself from the mesh and traffic reroutes.

Now if you have too many leaches and not enough contributors then you get a problem, but that’s not the same as a single point of failure.

Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by wvh on Monday October 26, 2026 @08:24AM (#50242473)
If operating a (even encrypted) wireless mesh net gets you gulag or death penalty, not very far.
Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by jon128 on Monday October 26, 2026 @08:48AM (#50242717)

  Why do you need an AR-15
Re:I refuse to accept a censored Internet. Join Me at FOSDEM 27 by cowlevel on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @12:44PM (#50261882)
People do illegal things all the time. The FBI can't even get very much of the dark web.