Re:DeepSeek: DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017
by Flere-Imsaho on Saturday October 17, 2026 @08:17AM
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I've been telling people this for a couple of months now, I'm actually struggling to use up all my tokens.
What does it matter if you’re not hitting your cap with OpenAI/Anthropic in the first place? This thread is apparently populated with the highest of powerusers running multiple OpenClaws. Us peasants aren’t concerned with meters or cost/token - just quality - and nobody comes close to OpenAI or Anthropic in that regard.
Pretty funny to say "us peasants aren't concerned with ... cost/token", as if most people ("peasants") won't find it absolutely insane to be paying $200/mo for a subscription.
Peasants don't pay for the subscription. The employer does.
Re:DeepSeek: DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017
by platinumrad on Saturday October 17, 2026 @07:07PM
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Corporations pay API rates. Subscriptions are only available to individuals.
Re:DeepSeek: DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017
by AntonyGarand on Saturday October 17, 2026 @07:53PM
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Large corporations pay API rates: Claude teams for example can buy subscriptions for its members, until they reach 150 of them after which they need to migrate to org.
How could that be considered insane for a professional tool?
Re:DeepSeek: DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017
by epolanski on Saturday October 17, 2026 @12:00PM
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In southern Europe (Italy, Greece) that's well beyond 10% of the average pay.
And southern Europe isn't exactly the poorest region around.
For a software engineer?
If you can get away with paying that much to a swe in Italy then why aren't Italian tech companies ruling the world on the back of ~free labor?
At the beginning of the month I realized I had more tokens and more capabilities on Opencode at 8$/month via DS 4.1 flash, than I had on a 200$ account in June with the american providers.
Literally both more tokens and capabilities than Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5.
Even if you pay per token, you're still unlikely to outspend american providers.