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Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by tcoop25 on Friday October 16, 2026 @11:09AM (#50119351)
Took my first Waymo in Austin, TX last weekend and it did not go well. Was supposed to be a 9 minute drive, then randomly it tells us the ride has been 'slightly extended' to 45 minutes. Customer support dropped us off at a restaurant and said sorry. We ordered a human Uber.

Honestly the last thing I thought would happen would be that it would get lost. I thought maybe it would get confused on the road, but it drove better than most human drivers.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by pj_mukh on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:12PM (#50120225)
Super weird! I've been using Waymo's regularly for 3 years now, couple of times a week and this has never happened.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by gboss on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:16PM (#50120302)
I’ve definitely been in Waymos that take forty minutes compared to an Uber’s 10 to fifteen because they use very circuitous routes.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by spankalee on Friday October 16, 2026 @02:08PM (#50122076)
A lot of that is Waymos not taking highways, but that's changing.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by xnx on Sunday October 18, 2026 @01:28PM (#50143229)
For a period of time Waymos were avoiding highways.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by nunez on Friday October 16, 2026 @11:59AM (#50120055)
There's something about the Uber-hailed Waymos that makes them so much worse than regular Waymos IMO.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by eeje1 on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:20PM (#50120354)
This is some crazy mental gymnastics.

I’ve seen them around in London - they are incredibly slow. There’s no way they’ll succeed here - speed is important for getting around.

This is what happens when people who live in a bubble automatically assume what works there must scale and make economic sense to the rest of the world.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by vidarh on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:31PM (#50120540)
Average driving speeds in London are already very low. How can they possibly be sufficiently slower as to be noticeable?
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by IshKebab on Friday October 16, 2026 @05:22PM (#50124944)
There's no way their slowness is going to make a difference in London. I would have thought the real problem is that they'll just get completely stuck at places where you have to be a bit aggressive to make any progress at all. They don't really have that in America.

That and cyclists/pedestrians can be kind of anywhere at any time. Again not a quite the same in America.

We'll see I guess.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by kenhwang on Friday October 16, 2026 @06:16PM (#50125484)
They get stuck in LA as it is which is pretty chill for a major American city all things considered.

They're just really cautious and do need an extra 10s to think sometimes, and there's a lot of driving scenarios that don't allow that much time to decide to go or not. The biggest culprit seems to be unprotected intersections with the potential for human/bike crossing, which includes driveways which they insist on using for dropoffs (even when they're obviously not public driveways), which they then take a very long time to leave.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by torton on Friday October 16, 2026 @09:41PM (#50127032)
Both of these "don't really have that in America" routinely happen in San Francisco, which gets semi-aggressive during gridlock and has a good amount of cyclists and scooter riders. Waymos are known to not do well during busy events that result in gridlock (like Independence Day or big music festivals), causing so much disturbance that the city introduced their first geofence banning autonomous cars (but not Uber/Lyft) from part of the city during Fleet Week this year.

At the same time technology doesn't stand still and the algorithms now have an "aggressiveness" slider that goes up if the car can't make any progress.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by wombat-man on Friday October 16, 2026 @11:38AM (#50119742)
Did it think it needed to take a very out of the way route?
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by sssilver on Friday October 16, 2026 @11:16AM (#50119459)
The perfect driving equivalent of AI slop
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by jjmarr on Friday October 16, 2026 @01:44PM (#50121723)
I went to Austin a few months ago and half the interchanges weren't on Google Maps because they were built so recently. In the week I was there I think they finished building a new one near my hotel.

I wonder how reliant self-driving cars are on unchanging road infrastructure.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by ajmurmann on Friday October 16, 2026 @08:58PM (#50126749)
Unless Austin is ahead Waymos currently don't go in freeways anyways because the fail more of simply stopping isn't an option there
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by throwaway2037 on Friday October 16, 2026 @10:21PM (#50127281)

    > half the interchanges weren't on Google Maps because they were built so recently
Uh, bullshit? It takes more than a year to build a modern interchange. Plenty of time for Google to update its maps. Can you provide a couple example satellite photos of the interchanges that are not yet mapped by Google?
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by jjmarr on Saturday October 17, 2026 @12:29AM (#50127951)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ryE7MoAhZEfH1t3T7?g_st=ac

Here's the interchange near my hotel that's not on satellite but is on Google Maps. Unfortunately satellite coverage on Google Maps is older than Google Maps is, but you can see on streetview in April 2025 it mostly wasn't there and in May 2026 it mostly was. I think I visited a month or so after which is why it was so recent.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by vel0city on Saturday October 17, 2026 @09:52AM (#50131198)
Google doesn't always update when the new ramp goes into effect and can sometimes lag by a few weeks or more from what I've personally experienced, living around places experiencing rapid redevelopment.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by throwaway2037 on Saturday October 17, 2026 @09:40PM (#50136989)
You are missing the point. The GP wrote "half". Utter bullshit. Sure, maybe one new on-ramp is missing... but half? And how many new interchanges is Austin building per year? I guess two at max.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by jjmarr on Saturday October 17, 2026 @09:47PM (#50137026)
The whole highway from my hotel to downtown Austin was new.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by vel0city on Saturday October 17, 2026 @10:04PM (#50137141)
> And how many new interchanges is Austin building per year? I guess two at max.

Sounds like someone who's never in their life driven in Austin.

It wouldn't surprise me to find it's nearly a half dozen per year, on a slow year. I only drive down there a few times a year and yet almost every time I go on my random route at least two stretches of road are just radically different from the last time I drove on it.

Sometimes it really feels like Texas' biggest industry is highway bridge/overpass construction.

If you've never experienced the rapid redevelopment of Texas exurbs and what not it's something of a marvel to behold, like watching a train wreck take place over months.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by lesuorac on Sunday October 18, 2026 @04:04AM (#50138968)
I always find it crazy these developments aren’t on maps.

Like did a bunch of teenagers sneak out at night and build a highway?

How hard can it be to have a process where mapping companies can register with a state’s DoT and get information when they build stuff?

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by vel0city on Monday October 19, 2026 @03:45PM (#50157124)
> Like did a bunch of teenagers sneak out at night and build a highway?

With how some of this urban design happens it almost feels to be the case at times.

A bit more real of an answer is: federalism. You're assuming the state DoT is entirely in charge of these projects. Lots of different government organizations are in charge of these things, and they don't always communicate well. Cities, counties, toll operators, and others can decide when these ramps are opened or closed. It's not just the state DoT that does these things. There's no single org that can authoritatively say "these are all the roads which are open, right now."

Now, I do agree with you, making such a data set complete and public should be some level of priority. There should be reporting standards involved in defined, standardized formats. These do not really exist, and making such a thing happen is a political question not a technical one.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by liljacob on Friday October 16, 2026 @03:48PM (#50123600)
I used them all the time when I lived in LA and they worked great. I didn't have a single bad experience. In general they were much more pleasant than having a human Uber, but that's just my opinion.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by stephen_cagle on Friday October 16, 2026 @06:17PM (#50125503)
Really? Bad luck, I have literally never had that happen! What time was this? Because Austin is closing down 35 in the evening and it is just doing crazy things to traffic. Maybe it was that?
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by throwaway2037 on Friday October 16, 2026 @10:18PM (#50127253)
Did you get a refund and/or bonus credits for future rides?
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by crazygringo on Friday October 16, 2026 @11:45PM (#50127721)
Was there a traffic jam or closed road or something?