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Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by juanjmanfredi on Thursday October 15, 2026 @04:40PM (#50109902)
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by giveaccountpls on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:08PM (#50111081)
What are his actual credentials? What did he achieve? Isn't he just some random dude on the internet? Why do people care what he says?
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by tgarrett on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:23PM (#50111244)
He tells spooky stories on the internet to make money. He has told numerous spooky stories. Yes. Spooky stories grab the attention of many people (understandably, given all the wars and plagues and famines in previous centuries).
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by paulpauper on Thursday October 15, 2026 @11:33PM (#50113721)
yes, he's an author fist and a researcher/scientist second. He has no peer reviewed publications in his name.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by socializer on Friday October 16, 2026 @03:10AM (#50115141)
> He tells spooky stories on the internet to make money.

I mean, yes, but so does the author of this article. It's literally his business. The article is, in part, an advertisement for what he sells.

I disagree with Yudkowsky on almost everything and I think the philosophical movement he co-founded is a pox on the SF Bay Area tech culture, but I don't think we can deny him credibility that's comparable to the credibility of the author of this article (who, as I understand, is a young guy who spent some time at OpenAI). They both know what they're talking about and both are motivated to reach specific conclusions.

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by Permit on Friday October 16, 2026 @07:41AM (#50117192)
> I mean, yes, but so does the author of this article. It's literally his business. The article is, in part, an advertisement for what he sells.

The author also publishes research and contributes to the field. This is the primary difference. Yudkowsky ONLY tells stories.

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by ChadNauseam on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:24PM (#50111761)
> What are his actual credentials? What did he achieve?

He cofounded the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, an organization focused on AI alignment, in 2000, way way before it was a trendy topic.

He's also partially responsible for popularizing ideas such as the orthogonality thesis and instrumental convergence.

> Isn't he just some random dude on the internet?

Not really, most random dudes on the internet were not researching AI alignment in 2000.

> Why do people care what he says?

Many people were introduced to the concept of AI alignment thanks to him, so they are naturally interested in reading his reaction to progress in the field.

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by giveaccountpls on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:43PM (#50111888)
I've read the wikipidea page of MIRI, and it does not mention any achievements; just that it was founded "with the purpose of accelerating the development of artificial intelligence". Did they advance the field of AI alignment at all? Being concerned with a problem does not make one an expert.

For the rest, is he just an AI influencer? One that predated his topic of interest, but still just an influencer?

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by paulpauper on Thursday October 15, 2026 @11:29PM (#50113698)
It's a non-profit that pays his salary and puts out the occasional research report every 7 or so years. It relies on donations. It operates on a long tail approach, in the hope of enticing a billionaire to donate a lot.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by ballmerpoint on Thursday October 15, 2026 @11:36PM (#50113760)
> Did they advance the field of AI alignment at all?

Not directly. Exotic decision theories were a dead end; as far as I know nobody outside of MIRI even cares about them. Certainly they’re not relevant to interpretability in the context of this thread.

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by ForHackernews on Friday October 16, 2026 @10:16AM (#50118664)
Yes, he is a very influential AI doomer/influencer. All the big names at the AI companies read his blogs in the aughts, see also https://skywriter.blue/@segyges.bsky.social/3mvom4b4dn22q
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by DennisP on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:49PM (#50111931)
Also, here is a list of his papers and citations.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/author/Eliezer-Yudkowsky/254...

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by voganmother42 on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:16PM (#50111176)
have you read his harry potter fan fiction?
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by Muromec on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:09AM (#50113973)
He runs a cult, that requires something I guess.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by thaway7388 on Friday October 16, 2026 @01:57AM (#50114612)
When a random dude with no credential has enormous influence and cult-like followers you can assume they are an agent of influence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_of_influence

Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by grungegun on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:06PM (#50111062)
That's because he's worried about super-intelligence. If LLM's are a normalish tech this is a good step
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by pertymcpert on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:00PM (#50111570)
No one cares what that guy says.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by rafaelRiv on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:35PM (#50111839)
Why do you care about a cultist ?
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by ok_dad on Thursday October 15, 2026 @05:30PM (#50110602)
Let him come here and comment, then. I’m amazed this rape cult leader immersed in his fantasy world still gets traction amongst HN.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by fluxusars on Thursday October 15, 2026 @05:42PM (#50110742)
By 'rape cult' I assume you're referring to the zizians? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizians - the internet is convinced Yudkowsky has nothing to do with them, so it's pretty disingenuous of you to claim otherwise without citing sources.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by nemomarx on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:41PM (#50111872)
I think the allegations for the LessWrong types started with the math pet thing?
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by Muromec on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:18AM (#50114021)
Math pet?
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by jacquesm on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:41PM (#50111393)
It's a nice can of worms, that one.
Re:Neural Networks Are Already Clean by krapp on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:46PM (#50111439)
I assume they're referring to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49737985

There have been plenty of allegations about the rationalist community beyond the Zizians, who really don't even qualify as a sex cult as far as I know? Violent, obviously, but they seem... ideologically asexual?