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Re:Muse Spark Open by Exoristos on Thursday October 15, 2026 @01:43PM (#50107306)
So what makes Muse "very sticky"?
Re:Muse Spark Open by nater5000 on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:02PM (#50107610)
Seriously. Muse hasn't even been around long enough to determine if it is "sticky" in any meaningful way, let alone in the context of competing against frontier models from competitors.

And based on what I'm seeing, it's far from even being in that category as a service yet. Seems like the OP is conflating seeing a bunch of Muse ads on Facebook with its presence as a competing frontier model.

Re:Muse Spark Open by PaulHoule on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:16PM (#50107867)
The ads strike me as basically deceptive. Like when I was in NYC last week the ads showing a cuddly mascot were all over the place. Video ads on YouTube don’t show a Bay Area TurboKnerd geeking out with a top-of-the-line Mac mini to a reskinned OpenClaw (reality) but rather some guy running and talking to his phone to schedule a massage.

I like the image of Muse and think a product that delivers what it promises to the consumer could be a hit but,,, this looks like something they rolled out in a hurry to take advantage of the FOMO of the uninformed and boost their stock price for a few months until reality catches up. They are a huge company and they could do something only a big company could do but no…

Like the real mass market product is not going to be a smart shell for a Mac it’s going to be cloud based. Like is it economic for your Mac to be sitting there running all the time when you are using 10%? The true believer say yes, the mass market says no. Is Apple going to let them put a skin on your Mac or is this a product that Apple will embrace and extinguish?

Re:Muse Spark Open by HarHarVeryFunny on Thursday October 15, 2026 @03:02PM (#50108614)
The naming is a bit confusing, but there are two things called Muse ...

There are the models, such as Muse Spark, Muse Wonder, and this Muse Open.

There there is "Muse" itself which is a cloud based "personal agent", always running in your own cloud-based virtual machine, that you can assign tasks to.

I think the Muse agent (which competes with Instinct, Grok Bot, etc) is where Meta currently believe the money will be. While you can pay for higher usage levels, it seems they are expecting many people to use the free tier, and they will make money by charging transaction fees to services Muse uses/orders (e.g. travel, entertainment) on your behalf. This "personal agent" market is predicted (but let's see) to be huge - much larger than the coding agent market.

I assume the guy in the ad is talking to his Muse agent to schedule the massage.

Re:Muse Spark Open by redanddead on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:43PM (#50108302)
came out like a week or two ago lol
Re:Muse Spark Open by margalabargala on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:09PM (#50107748)
Unfounded assertions by marketing accounts, obviously.
Re:Muse Spark Open by dominotw on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:51PM (#50108441)
spamming same comment

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50060213

do ppl get paid by zuck for this?

Re:Muse Spark Open by margalabargala on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:51PM (#50111489)
Yes, zuck undoubtedly employs dozens of people whose job it is to make positive comments about meta.

It's not like getting found out would damage meta's reputation.

Re:Muse Spark Open by dominotw on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:52PM (#50111501)
how do i get on that train lol
Re:Muse Spark Open by casualscience on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:22PM (#50107960)
Muse is not sticky at all, it's just OpenClaw wrapped in meta branding. Any company can roll one out
Re:Muse Spark Open by boshalfoshal on Thursday October 15, 2026 @03:10PM (#50108736)
I disagree with the claim that its sticky, but this is the wrong response. Reductive and doesn't take into account the obvious things (UX, network effects, barrier to entry to use the product). All 3 of these are much better with Muse than they with are similar products.
Re:Muse Spark Open by casualscience on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:24PM (#50111757)
UX is not a moat, especially in the era of AI software replication. I disagree that there are network effects for MUSE, maybe there will be at some point (e.g. vendors or something sign up for it) but I would love to hear why its better to be on muse when more people use it? Barrier to entry is somewhere they have an advantage, but not more of an advantage than google, or really anyone who has an app installed on your phone already.
Re:Muse Spark Open by MikhailTal on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:43PM (#50108318)
any company can roll instagram(just simple image viewer) or whatsapp(just messaging) out though with the same logic. Does not mean you can compete
Re:Muse Spark Open by casualscience on Thursday October 15, 2026 @03:06PM (#50108683)
Social networks have network effects, an ai assistant does not
Re:Muse Spark Open by radicalbyte on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:33PM (#50108146)
Basically once it has sucked all of your data dry you no longer have the ability to leave the Meta Network.
Re:Muse Spark Open by tedggh on Thursday October 15, 2026 @01:57PM (#50107527)
Good anthropomorphism.
Re:Muse Spark Open by vatsachak on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:12PM (#50107790)
The ecosystem of meta products like Instagram
Re:Muse Spark Open by mercacona on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:11PM (#50107772)
Velcro
Re:Muse Spark Open by altmanaltman on Thursday October 15, 2026 @02:25PM (#50108013)
the bear is sticky with honey
Re:Muse Spark Open by bermudi on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:59PM (#50111556)
Impossible to even know if he was talking about the harness, the model, the assistant... But yeah, sticky... Ok.