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Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by walrus01 on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @07:27AM (#49976934)
If anyone was wondering how some of that heavy stuff gets to the south pole to build such a large engineering project, at the farthest possible end of any logistics chain:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=south+pol...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Traverse

https://octanepress.com/content/south-pole-traverse_antartic...

Significant amounts of things still come in by air cargo at great cost, but a lot also comes the long slow way.

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by brookst on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @08:48AM (#49977623)
I am adopting “Furthest possible end of any logistics chain” as a more refined version of “middle of fucking nowhere”. Thank you.
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by walrus01 on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @08:50AM (#49977643)
It would probably be harder if they wanted to put it, for instance, on the ocean floor at Point Nemo, but for sure the literal south pole is pretty damn expensive on a $ per kg to get stuff sent to. And on an ongoing basis to sustain operations 24x7x365 (it's my understanding it runs almost entirely on diesel fuel and/or Jet-A for a big-ass set of generators).
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by imglorp on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @09:19AM (#49978018)
I disagree: anywhere in the ocean is easier logistics than crawler trains over land: ship it there and chuck it overboard. They do that to install oil rigs all the time (but that's more like float it there and sink it). Eg: https://www.wired.com/2014/07/dockwise-vanguard-shipping
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by walrus01 on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @09:32AM (#49978199)
Yeah, but now imagine the cost of putting large active electronics 4,000 meters down on the sea floor and keeping it running, and getting the data back off it... The cost of running the drill rig seen in the photos of the icecube detector would be a fraction of that.
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by _Microft on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @11:15AM (#49979768)
That’s also a thing, e.g. in the Mediterranean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KM3NeT

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by NooneAtAll3 on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @01:29PM (#49981567)
why would "ship it there and chuck overboard" be easier than "crawler train it there and chuck overboard"?
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by IAmBroom on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @03:23PM (#49982840)
Because shipping is easier than trucking at subzero temperatures on roads constantly being covered in snow.

Also, we've been shipping by water much longer than we've been trucking things on wheels, because the tech is easier: get on floaty wood and paddle.

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by brookst on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @09:18AM (#49978012)
For sure, there are more difficult places, but I don’t think there is any conceivable place where the supply chain runs through the South Pole on its way. I hope not.
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by r58lf on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @01:27PM (#49981545)
It is expensive and it doesn't need to be there, but the reason its at the south pole is that the US has money for SOMETHING at the south pole. They want to maintain a presence at the south pole for international relations reasons. To be consistent with insternational treaties they need to do science there.

So, the US/NSF is like "we have a bunch of money to do science, but it has to be at the south pole". People like Halzen who had a crazy idea go to NSF and say how can I get a bunch of money to do this. NSF says, we don't have that kind of money in our physics budget, but if you were to do it at the southpole we could fund it.

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by patcon on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @01:50PM (#49981800)
That's such interesting context. Thank you!
Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by angled on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @09:16PM (#49986669)
Is the cynical take on this experiment the one where the detectors have a dual purpose?

I was interested to see the photos of the modules. LEDs and an Ethernet port!

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by niwtsol on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @11:08AM (#49979638)
This was fascinating, thank you for posting! Here is a video I found of the different types of sleds they use on the traverse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjrQrKjotpA