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Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by minimaxir on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:34PM (#49886414)
There's, uh, a reason ChatGPT is one of the biggest consumer apps of all time.
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by dubbie99 on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:37PM (#49886449)
That nobody uses on their phones. It’s like that install of angrybirds everyone has that they haven’t touched in a decade
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by minimaxir on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:48PM (#49886547)
As of today, ChatGPT is the #4 Top Free app on the US iOS App Store: this chart only measures new/recent downloads.

The #1 and #2 apps are non-coding, pure consumer AI applications (Meta Muse and Momo).

Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by pjerem on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:44PM (#49886521)
You are living in another world. I don’t know a single people who is not using ChatGPT, Gemini or Claude. Even my non tech parents are using it everyday.
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by elzbardico on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:38PM (#49886456)
How many people are going to pay a 20 dollars subscription for it?
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by minimaxir on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:41PM (#49886479)
That is not relevant to your assertion of "AI has no real use besides NLP."
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by trollbridge on Monday September 28, 2026 @08:43PM (#49886502)
apparently very few people - I know tons of people who use it and almost nobody who pays for it, particularly outside of tech
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by karlshea on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @01:10AM (#49888536)
Well that's why they're going to start injecting ads.
Re:Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs by hajile on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @11:41AM (#49895251)
Ads in AI are problematic in a big way.

How do you add them? Inside the model has tons of problems. From user context makes a bit more sense, but how do you decide and how do you ensure the context is actually beneficial for the company paying for the ads (advertisers are very sensitive about what content gets subconsciously associated with their brand).

How do you make sure a human sees them? This is a very hard problem even in normal ads and seems even more problematic with chatbots.

How do you attract advertiser dollars? Ad spending is zero-sum. You must somehow convince advertisers that your chatbot is a better ad platform than Youtube, Facebook, etc.

The only AI solution that seems reasonable is something like Google's AI search because the RAG backend ensures Google can control where ads show effectively through deterministic means (based on the websites it pulls). Google also has the ad network, consumer base, and provable humans to drive up ad value (this is without mentioning that Gemini falls behind on coding/math benchmarks, but seems to be better at "normie" interactions).

None of this helps any of the AI startups and running all this extra stuff for the same ad revenue cuts Google's profit margins too.