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Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by defrost on Monday September 21, 2026 @10:32PM (#49796167)
Will they surrender logs for a legal discovery request?

e.g. Johnny's accused of something white collar, did he ever make any prompts that suggest how early on he was aware of {X} and further indicate how he moved to frame it?

That's a requirement that varies by country.

Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by SV_BubbleTime on Monday September 21, 2026 @11:22PM (#49796462)
Have you read anything about the feature?

They’re asserting that all the audio is done on device, and the results of encrypted so they can’t access them even from the backups.

Unlike… EVERY… other tech company, it is in Apple’s interest to be privacy-focused.

Even if you just have to believe them, which you do pretty much, they’re the biggest name pushing for privacy in the world right now. They make more on selling devices than they make on ads and behaviors. It’s in their interest to not lie.

Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by ierukah on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @01:30AM (#49797124)
> It’s in their interest to not lie.

Oh, really?

Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by microtonal on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @01:45AM (#49797210)
Read the actual privacy brief. Even though the audio transcription is done on device. For Siri recap, a condensed transcription (which mostly removes superfluous words, etc.) goes to their PCC servers. So even though their servers do not get raw audio, their servers do get transcriptions, which is nearly the same privacy-wise.

Of course, at that point it depends on how much you trust their PCC.

Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by account42 on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @04:01AM (#49797962)
It's their interest to be privacy focused ... to the extend that they don't let other companies have free access to their users data.

But make no mistake, Apple itself is an ad company and that sets all the incentives that matter.

Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by codedokode on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @05:05AM (#49798347)
Yes? What other answer could be there?
Re:Spymarks, Not Watermarks by Pannoniae on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @07:12AM (#49799391)
"No" is also an answer. Sadly one which isn't considered by many people :)