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Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by fuzzfactor on Thursday September 03, 2026 @07:00AM (#49548448)
Yes?

Growing up in a retirement community you would be foolish to ignore the fact that some things don't start getting good for the first few decades.

Most everybody else doesn't have such overwhelming examples, and fail to realize it until much later in life, if ever.

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by srl on Friday September 04, 2026 @02:10PM (#49568105)
"Few paintings have lasted the test of time as the great wave of Kanagawa. It took Kanagawa 40 years before he drew the wave he is most known for."

The painting is by Hokusai. Kanagawa is a place.

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by badlibrarian on Friday September 04, 2026 @02:27PM (#49568328)
He doesn't do much better on the other example. Term-frequency saturation is the important part, and he ignores the 1972 paper by Karen Sparck Jones.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by sandymcmurray on Friday September 04, 2026 @03:16PM (#49568960)
He also made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by bananaflag on Friday September 04, 2026 @02:13PM (#49568149)
In fantasy:

J R R Tolkien

Janny Wurts

M A R Barker

Ed Greenwood

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by giraffe_lady on Friday September 04, 2026 @02:42PM (#49568505)
A couple software examples off the top of my head are Richard Hipp with SQLite and Matthew Ahrens with ZFS. Both almost incomprehensibly sophisticated projects executed well over decades.

Neither are anything like a solo effort in the way these examples are, and it's hard to say what they'd be like without the long individual involvement.

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by techteach00 on Friday September 04, 2026 @02:52PM (#49568613)
Ted Nelson!
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by roncesvalles on Friday September 04, 2026 @03:22PM (#49569044)
Darwin took 21 years to publish his findings on evolution. In fact he couldn't finish the actual book that he had set out to write and published a summarized abstract instead, which is what we know as On the Origin of Species.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by stevenwoo on Friday September 04, 2026 @04:16PM (#49569703)
Plus he would have kept working on it until Alfred Wallace wrote him a letter about coming up with his own idea independently so it was publish together or get beat to the punch.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by pcrh on Friday September 04, 2026 @03:39PM (#49569256)
People who...
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by croes on Friday September 04, 2026 @03:45PM (#49569335)
I guess Chris Roberts and Star Citizen will join that club
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by jll29 on Friday September 04, 2026 @03:45PM (#49569338)
Software

Richard Stallman: GCC and Emacs - both massive pro?ects and still going strong.

Linus Torvalds: Linux OS kernel

Science

Geoffrey Hinton: scaling neural networks

Books

Donald E. Knuth: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (vol 4c of 12)

Buildings

misc. architects and builders: (most) cathedrals (Cologne, Barcelona, ...)

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by WCSTombs on Friday September 04, 2026 @06:28PM (#49570974)
Knuth didn't write SICP, it's by Abelson, Sussman, and Sussman.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by phkahler on Friday September 04, 2026 @08:35PM (#49571848)
Knuth wrote TAOCP.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by defrost on Friday September 04, 2026 @08:37PM (#49571864)
Knuth is writing TAOCP.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by glimshe on Saturday September 05, 2026 @07:00AM (#49575313)
Knuth will likely not finish writing TAOCP. :(
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by fnord77 on Friday September 04, 2026 @03:53PM (#49569415)
the title kind of implies there would be more than just 2
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by jujube3 on Friday September 04, 2026 @06:49PM (#49571108)
Check back in a few decades, and he'll have added some more.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by CM30 on Friday September 04, 2026 @04:15PM (#49569688)
Surprisingly common in fangames and mods. Mushroom Kingdom Fusion started in 2007 at the latest, and it's not going to be done for a year or so at the earliest. So, 20 years, maybe 30 if you count predecessor projects.

Brutal Mario started in 2006 at the latest, and ended in the 2020s as far as I recall, so about 14-15 years. Of course, the 2006 demo was technically demo 6, so we have no idea when the first 5 versions were created since they seem to be gone forever.

Super Mario Star World is a remake/sequel to the Mario 64 hack Super Mario Star Road, which was made for Super Mario 64 DS instead. It seemed to start out as a sequel in the Super Mario 64 engine in 2013, then ended up as a Super Mario 3D Land mod a few years later, got retooled as a Super Mario 64 DS hack a few years after that and is currently in development by a new creator after original creator SKELUX got cancer and moved onto other projects.

In other mediums, I guess there's the Thief & the Cobbler. Started in 1964, got an unfinished/messed up release in 1993, and a better recuts in 2013 and 2023.

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by embedding-shape on Friday September 04, 2026 @05:39PM (#49570550)
Video games in general have lots of people working on their games for decades too. UnReal World is from early 90s, was released on Steam in 2016, and AFAIK still gets updates. Nethack is even older (late 80s?) and also still get updates, I guess there might be bunch of MUD with single creators who still churn out updates too. Dwarf Fortress is quite old too for still gaining in popularity.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by CM30 on Friday September 04, 2026 @05:51PM (#49570663)
Oh video games in general can have crazy development times, whether it's through an open beta/development process or a closed one. Dwarf Fortress is a good one for sure, as is Star Citizen. Also Duke Nukem Forever, and Beyond Good & Evil 2 (the latter has somehow passed the former's record for longest recognised game development time at 20 years compared to 14).

Super Mario Bros X is arguably getting up there too, started in 2009 by Terraria developer Redigit, and now in development by a new group as of 2026.

And while a Doom fan needs to check this, I remember the mod Mordeth started before Duke Nukem Forever was announced, and the later episodes ain't done as of 2026.

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by interroboink on Friday September 04, 2026 @04:27PM (#49569833)
I'm reminded of an old talk by Rich Hickey [1] (he created Closure, initially in semi-isolation over some years).

  > When was the last time that you thought about something for an
  > entire hour? ... Howabout for a whole day? ... or over the course of a
  > month? ... or a year? These are tremendously valuable moments, if you
  > get to have them at all.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84n5oFoZBc
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by RRWagner on Friday September 04, 2026 @04:40PM (#49569964)
Myself, Roger Wagner,HyperStudio, 1988...1998...2008+
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by orsenthil on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:49PM (#49579474)
Wow!. Nice to meet you.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by chubot on Friday September 04, 2026 @05:10PM (#49570260)
I think Charles Babbage is a special case -- IIRC his son also picked up his work, after his death. So he actually worked on it for "generations", by having a child who also worked on his ideas :-)
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by hatmatrix on Friday September 04, 2026 @05:18PM (#49570354)
Don't most researchers fall into this category?
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by colechristensen on Friday September 04, 2026 @06:48PM (#49571106)
Not so often the "same" idea but a related or rather narrow field.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by flobosg on Friday September 04, 2026 @06:17PM (#49570887)
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by devld on Friday September 04, 2026 @06:22PM (#49570929)
Infinity project (game) https://gamedev.net/blogs/entry/2262302-a-retrospective-on-t... started in 2004. It's not the same exact game, but the developer seems to work on something similar: https://www.inovaestudios.com/Battlescape The journal / blog is very interesting btw.
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by keymasta on Friday September 04, 2026 @07:40PM (#49571476)
For scifi: Frank Herbert and his son for the Dune series
Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by soupfordummies on Friday September 04, 2026 @08:00PM (#49571609)
Is there just two examples or is the page not loading for me?

Shelby Foote’s Civil War history and Robert Caro’s LBJ biography come to mind.

They also make me think I may have to work on READING them for decades.

Re:People that worked on the same idea for decades by orsenthil on Saturday September 05, 2026 @12:41PM (#49578238)
The quote by Hokusai is beautiful.

Algorithms books and material by Robert Sedgewick and Kevin Wayne is 40 year effort too.

Computer Networks, Operating Systems, Distributed Systems from Andrew Tanenbaum, same.