Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by t1234s on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @04:56PM
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Google Play Services ruins dream of this. I've noticed that automotive digital keys don't work with Graphine OS due to how Google Wallet works.
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Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by Gigachad on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @07:40PM
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I think a Linux phone probably appeals to the same kind of person who prefers real keys over digital ones.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by duskdozer on Thursday August 06, 2026 @01:10AM
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I'm that kind of person, but my opposition to the "digital key" things like this is mainly about them being out of my control and not having the ability to opt out of user-hostile activity. With a digital key, I expect things like the parent said: being forced to use proprietary corporate apps, facing random limitations like maybe the key stops working if you lose internet connection (or when Cloudflare decides to block you, or anything like this), useless error messages that don't let me know if I can resolve something easily myself, and such things. I do use and like the "digital key" things sometimes, when they are as free and reliable as the "physical key".
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by pjmlp on Thursday August 06, 2026 @03:06AM
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More like those that make copies of their physical keys at home, after having analysed dozens of key cutting machines for that exact purpose.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by shakna on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @06:58PM
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Or most banks, government apps, and so on. Which all require an app to login, rather than support any open and actually secure standard.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by MrDrMcCoy on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @09:19PM
(#49191241)
Governments that require any particular device, OS, or 3rd-party platform have sold your citizenship to private interests.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by DataDynamo on Thursday August 06, 2026 @04:07AM
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But what's your choice as a citizen then - emigrate from your country due to apps?
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by inigyou on Thursday August 06, 2026 @05:32AM
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Show up to the government office. Say you don't have a compatible phone. Wait until they find a solution for you.
I guarantee the government is not forcing 95-year-old Betsy in bumfuck nowhere with no cell coverage to learn how to use a phone. They have some solution, they're just not making it obvious.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by specproc on Thursday August 06, 2026 @06:17AM
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I'm in the process of buying a house, and getting some support from my Dad. AML checks required by app for both of us, he hated it.
I just called the solicitor, said "my Dad hates the app", they immediately presented an alternative.
And generally, 99% of stuff exists in browser. My phone is for messaging, photos, and reading, very little else.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by shakna on Thursday August 06, 2026 @06:01AM
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My government's solution to this, is a physical office, where they will file the paperwork for you. You may have an average wait time of four hours to be seen, and so must devote an entire working day to the effort, but can submit without a phone.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by prmoustache on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @06:46PM
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I thought I would miss google wallet but after 2 years of using graphene I came to the conclusion that it is easy to live without it.
A non problem imho.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by downrightmike on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @06:10PM
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What about real keys?
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by bpavuk on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @06:11PM
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a technology of bygone times. we shall preserve it
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by MrDrMcCoy on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @09:16PM
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If I had a car with that feature and no clear way to permanently disable it, I would take it back.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by warkdarrior on Thursday August 06, 2026 @12:14AM
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Can't you use an open-source wallet app? F-Droid seems to have a bunch of them.
Re:I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux
by t1234s on Thursday August 06, 2026 @09:18AM
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FWIW I think tesla app works fine on Graphine/Lineage OS as a digital key where the BMW system (and maybe other MFGs) use something with Google Wallet which requires something with Google Play Services to work.