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Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by seba_dos1 on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:27PM (#49176675)
Same. Thank heavens the website doesn't know the position of the browser's window in respect to the screen it's on.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by krick on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:59PM (#49176902)
Actually, they do, sort of. At least, if you use GLSL shaders. I remember some demo project using it in a way that made it appear that the website "sees" another window with the same website, which blew my mind when I saw it first. Cannot recall the name or anything else to locate it.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by m0nhawk on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @08:54PM (#49177300)
My guess is that you’re remembering this demo: https://xcancel.com/_nonfigurativ_/status/172732259457002734...
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by krick on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @09:00PM (#49177345)
Yep, that's right.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by seba_dos1 on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:05PM (#49177749)
The ability from this demo is Chromium-specific, needs extra permissions and has nothing to do with GLSL: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window_Mana...
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by fluoridation on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:33PM (#49176722)
Wait until they realize that on mobile they can use accelerometer data to keep the element in the same position in space across translations of the device.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by jagged-chisel on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:41PM (#49176769)
Wait, I have to hold my phone how in order to see the div? ಠ_ಠ
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by giancarlostoro on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @08:12PM (#49176995)
The same way Steve Jobs said to hold the iPhone.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by blamarvt on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:48PM (#49176811)
I assume you have to be facing the server...
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by alterom on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @09:59PM (#49177714)
I mean, this could have applications, if you need to be facing a certain direction to read the content.

While the Silicon Valley is merely a figurative Mecca for all things tech, Apple could require people to be facing Cupertino if you want to watch a WWDC stream :D

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by Izkata on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:37PM (#49177932)
Aww, looks like the magnetometer web API was abandoned: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Magnetomete...
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by dotancohen on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @05:25AM (#49180468)
This might actually be useful as some people do their maintenance facing either Jerusalem or Mecca.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by dpkirchner on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @08:44PM (#49177227)
It's easy, you just need to hold your phone such that your eyes are pointed directly at the ads as they scroll up and down the screen. Thank you for consuming content.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by 1bpp on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @09:13PM (#49177422)
position: hyperfixed;
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by p1mrx on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @09:25PM (#49177502)
So the content falls down at 10 m/s^2 unless you're falling alongside it.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by fluoridation on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:25PM (#49177872)
But the problem is, you can never quite catch up to it without a rocket.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by valleyer on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @11:41PM (#49178358)
No, you can also take your clothes off and throw them upward with sufficient force.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by dotancohen on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @05:33AM (#49180516)
I think that I saw somebody take your advice about five hours ago at the beach.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by happymellon on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:09AM (#49178783)
And running to counter earth rotation...
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by Izkata on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:32PM (#49177912)
Translations? Not far enough, got to include rotations: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Device_orie...

(And yes, CSS can rotate around all three axes, so you could make a div that resists rotating your device in addition to resisting translation...)

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by LocalH on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @11:35PM (#49178322)
Stop giving them ideas! :(
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by tzs on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @06:34PM (#49189985)
I've actually kind of wanted something like that.

Sometimes there is no size setting that will get the text lines on a page to fit horizontally without making the text too small to read. Making it large enough to read means lots of left and right scrolling which is annoying.

A mode where moving the phone sideways scrolls the text at a matching rate so that the experience is similar to reading a page with a magnifying glass might be handy.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by fluoridation on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @07:35PM (#49190517)
Most people would rather lines to be broken up and wrapped around than to have to walk around the room to read. Do you often find yourself reading photographs of stone tables or something?
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by tzs on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @11:40PM (#49192158)
Why would you have to walk? You would be moving the phone back and forth by less than the width of a page.

Wrapping is fine on some material, but when there are tables it can be very annoying.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by sheept on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:31PM (#49177904)
There's several web APIs for browser window positioning, like screenX/Y[0] (which is what OP uses), which allows for those classic pop-up based browser games from over a decade ago, like Browser Ball.[1]

[0]: demo: https://mdn.github.io/dom-examples/screenleft-screentop/

[1]: https://romanbaiocco.github.io/browser-ball-reloaded/

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by seba_dos1 on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @11:20PM (#49178221)
For this to work, the browser itself would have to know where its window is placed on the screen. Not all platforms provide such information.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by gmueckl on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @12:17AM (#49178504)
While providing this information to websites without user permission is probably a longstanding mistake of web browsers, windowing systems withholding proper on-screen positioning from native applications is a bug in that system - a bad one.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by happymellon on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:06AM (#49178764)
Why? The window and its position shouldn't matter to the app.

My tiling window manager doesn't care what your snowflake app thinks it wants, and I don't either.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by gmueckl on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @03:25AM (#49179634)
Then continue to enjoy your broken popup menus and combo box drop downs, for starters.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by happymellon on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @05:24AM (#49180463)
All apps I use are well behaved and work to the relationship that the window they are given.

I'm trying to think of any that try to fight the interface quite as much as this.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by seba_dos1 on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @07:15AM (#49181208)
Are these broken popup menus and combo box dropdowns with us in the room right now?

Yes, some things in some complex applications can break, but there are solutions and, practically, these particular things you listed simply aren't among those that break.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by gmueckl on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @11:41AM (#49184461)
For example, the VS Code menu bar is broken because the drop-downs clip against the window frame, not the screen edges. The reason is different in this case, though (electron).
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by tredre3 on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @03:27PM (#49187721)
GNOME Files (nautilus) made the file property dialog a modal because they really want it to be centered relative to the file browser window and wayland didn't let them position or obtain coordinates.

The result is that you can't open open two file property dialogs at once (to compare sizes or dates or any other meta data, it's a common thing one might want to do).

Hopefully you'd agree that Wayland should allow apps to position windows relative to their own windows, at the very least.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by kyusan0 on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @05:31PM (#49189315)
With Dolphin file manager on Wayland this works for me as expected, a new window opens in the centre of the file browser window, no matter the size or position of the window. I didn't do any actual testing but I wonder what the difference is.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by happymellon on Thursday August 06, 2026 @02:28AM (#49193210)
Making the pop-ups model has nothing to do with windows not knowing their position on screen.

It's a design choice.

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by casey2 on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:34PM (#49186150)
It's not "my broken popup menus" since I'm not writing your app. This is some of the most basic portable software 101 I can't believe a real developer would complain about it.

If you do have that attitude there are a million other OOP style things to throw out for speed and correctness before virtual monitors and coordinating compositors

Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by account42 on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @03:44AM (#49179768)
The its only fair that complex applications don't care about how well they work under your snowflake WM either.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by happymellon on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @05:25AM (#49180465)
Complex applications work fine.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by AlienRobot on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @09:00AM (#49182244)
You are literally replying to a thread that has an example of a game where the position of the window matters.
Re:We finally learned to center a div, then browsers added s... by JoshTriplett on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @09:46PM (#49191424)
It was a cute stunt, and it's fine for it to stop working so that sites stop misbehaving.