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Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by porksoda on Sunday July 19, 2026 @07:54AM (#48967302)
My experience was so much different to this, that I have the unfortunate impression that you're shilling. It really was not a capable model, it felt like the old oai models back when we were all excited but couldn't actually trust them even in the littlest ways. What harness were you using, did you do any work to make it better? What was I doing wrong? I just pointed opencode at it, with a pretty simple (large-ish) data cleaning project.
Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by Planktonne on Sunday July 19, 2026 @08:15AM (#48967457)
> My experience was so much different to this, that I have the unfortunate impression that you're shilling

I think you might both just be reading way too much into one-off random experiences that you've decided are evidence of significant and stable capability.

Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by chewz on Sunday July 19, 2026 @08:11AM (#48967427)
Have you actually used Opus 4.8 in Claude Code? It takes way too long to do any practical task on higher thinking levels due to over-engineering. And I am not the only one complaining. Lots of people downgrade to Opus 4.6 exactly for this reason.

Opus 4.8 training works well for agentic work. Not for code harness.

Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by anonzzzies on Sunday July 19, 2026 @08:25AM (#48967549)
Works extremely well for us. I never know what other people are doing when we read these stories.
Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by rapind on Sunday July 19, 2026 @10:30AM (#48968514)
Yeah I found 4.7 and 4.8 to be downgrades from 4.6. I don't know if it was the model or just Anthropic's scaling issues though TBH. I found working with the Claude Code max (20x) sub would work awesome in between new models. A week before up to 2 weeks after, it would go to crap, dumber, slower, outages, harness churn, etc.

I'm finding the same with ChatGPT recently since the 5.6 release. Not as bad though, but sluggishness at times, harness churn (creating bugs and crashed), and occasional availability issues that cause me to downgrade to 5.5.

It's gotten to the point where I dread a new model release from these companies because it's guaranteed to be disruptive! I assume the pay per use API is less impacted.

Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by sunaookami on Sunday July 19, 2026 @01:51PM (#48970211)
Reddit is the absolute worst way to find real experience. Opus 4.8 is a very capable model and no chinese model can outdo it.
Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by VladVladikoff on Sunday July 19, 2026 @08:38AM (#48967665)
It’s so fascinating watching people on here bicker about models like fine wines. Wild times we live in. Wild times.
Re:Qwen 3.8 Max Preview by nozzlegear on Sunday July 19, 2026 @01:04PM (#48969798)
It's not a frontier LLM if it's not made in the Silicon Valley region of California, otherwise it's just a sparkling LLM.