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Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by arikrahman on Thursday July 02, 2026 @03:48AM (#48757941)
I had a similar experience moving away from Copilot within Zed. Now using the reasonix harness for Deepseek that makes cache hits almost free. And that's with unsubsidized American providers like Digital Ocean or Cloudflare.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by k__ on Thursday July 02, 2026 @04:13AM (#48758137)
Nice.

I paid $6 yesterday for DeepSeek V4 Flash on OpenRouter. That's like $120 dollar for a month, and it's not even a good model.

Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by bel8 on Thursday July 02, 2026 @04:25AM (#48758239)
For DS4 it's much cheaper and reputable to use OpenCode Go $10/mo subscription, or directly with DeepSeek API.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by k__ on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:34AM (#48758792)
Thanks!

I'll try that.

Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by arikrahman on Thursday July 02, 2026 @01:49PM (#48765006)
Sometimes $10 is more than I'll do with API tokens. I prefer the top up scheme for peace of mind, but the deal does sound generous. The only concern is sustainability, similar to subsidized copilot pricing having to change.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by epolanski on Thursday July 02, 2026 @04:31AM (#48758291)
That's quite an achievement, I managed to spend only 2$ on 16 different tasks of v4 pro.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by k__ on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:33AM (#48758784)
Yeah, v4 flash is dirt cheap, but it's running in circles quite often.

Might very well be that a better model is cheaper if it gets things right the first try.

Maybe I should route to a better model when v4flash hasn't solved after a specific number of tokens.

Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by russelg on Thursday July 02, 2026 @07:48AM (#48759942)
I'm having great success with DS4 Pro as my main model, while using DS4 Flash for subagents.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by k__ on Saturday July 04, 2026 @05:23AM (#48784043)
I tried DS4 Pro yesterday for one particular task that Flash struggled with.

That one Pro task cost $1.50 and the whole day of using Flash cost me $5.

Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by toyg on Thursday July 02, 2026 @04:43AM (#48758383)
I tried using Zed but with local models it constantly breaks on tool calls. I wanted to like it but the smell of vibing is just too much.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by arcanemachiner on Thursday July 02, 2026 @04:49AM (#48758429)
You using models released this year? I hear this complaint a lot, and it's often due to using an old model which is not as good at tool calling as newer models.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by spockz on Thursday July 02, 2026 @07:05AM (#48759512)
What I noticed is that when the conversation starts the agent is pretty able to read from and write to files. As the conversation continues (and maybe sub agents are spawned) it forgets how to do this, complains, tries to resort to running shell or python code, sometimes it works. Sometimes it asks me to execute the code. If I refuse and point out it worked before than sometimes it remembers how to write, but mostly not and I need to start a new session.

When using Zed with the CoPilot integration I use Claude Opus and never had this issue.

Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by toyg on Thursday July 02, 2026 @06:38AM (#48759289)
Qwen 3.6 and 3.5...
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by arikrahman on Thursday July 02, 2026 @01:47PM (#48764974)
Likewise, and that's with state of the art technology. I wish a true self-contained binary for Reasonix Desktop was released, for now I have to settle for providing a Flake.nix environment. It isn't nearly as fickle as Zed, but I wish they leveraged that power of the Go toolset more.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by VortexLain on Thursday July 02, 2026 @06:57AM (#48759434)
What is the average monthly token price for daily reasonix use?
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by arikrahman on Thursday July 02, 2026 @01:50PM (#48765025)
For me it's about $5 of work, where I've done equivalent work for about $200.
Re:Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot by sydneypan on Thursday July 02, 2026 @07:59AM (#48760066)
Yep reasonix is an absolute case study of caching. They literally compiled byte level cache in their design and it is insane. i can one shot many workflows, apps in under 0.05 cents.