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Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by bee_rider on Monday June 29, 2026 @01:36PM (#48722337)
It is a little confusing, they ruled that the search was not legitimate, but this didn’t end up helping the defendant? I’m definitely missing an important nuance here but I’m not sure what it is…
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by sidewndr46 on Monday June 29, 2026 @02:52PM (#48723480)
The judge doesn't care if the law was violated in collecting evidence.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by dylan604 on Monday June 29, 2026 @04:05PM (#48724412)
Maybe this particular judge didn't for whatever reasoning, but judges definitely prevent a prosecutor from introducing evidence based on how it was collected. This is why concepts like "fruit of poisonous tree" and "parallel construction" exist.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by harimau777 on Monday June 29, 2026 @04:30PM (#48724759)
Doesn't parallel construcction mean that judges actually don't care how evidence was collected? They can't possibly care that much if they are fine with a fig leaf like parallel construction.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by sidewndr46 on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:21PM (#48727490)
Parallel construction means the judge doesn't know.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by NoGravitas on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @11:35AM (#48734236)
Or can at least plausibly pretend not to.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by sidewndr46 on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @01:08PM (#48750053)
I guess that is true, although you'd be hard pressed to prove that. I don't think any court would hear a complaint about a lower court or adjacent court having participated willingly in parallel construction.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by Spooky23 on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:46PM (#48728287)
No.

Parallel construction means they have an illegal bugging device in the courthouse bathroom, and use a conversation that you have with your attorney to identify a witness. Then they independently arrest the witness for something and pressure them to testify.

Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by superxpro12 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:42AM (#48733384)
Basically... yeah.

It's using illegally obtained evidence (like an NSA wiretap) to point the detectives in the right direction they would have otherwise never probabilistic-ly searched.

Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by qingcharles on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:36PM (#48726258)
I had a judge once tell me that the police absolutely have the right to commit crimes to gather evidence in an investigation.

(mostly true -- for instance an officer can generally commit innumerable felonies as long as nothing they do violates your personal constitutional rights -- rarely is evidence thrown out because it was obtained in violation of a statute unless that statute includes a provision for exclusion, e.g. wiretapping laws)

Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by sidewndr46 on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:20PM (#48727488)
The individual who would prosecute them also needs to work with them to prosecute civilians. So pretty much, so long as it isn't murder.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by qingcharles on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @04:24AM (#48729907)
Exactly this.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by igjjigjk on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @01:44AM (#48742723)
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Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by 201p on Monday June 29, 2026 @04:43PM (#48724939)
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by Refreeze5224 on Monday June 29, 2026 @05:10PM (#48725291)
I think they left it to the lower court to decide if the search was legitimate in particular. They ruled in general that geo-fence warrants are not OK. Not a lawyer though!
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by adastra22 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:41AM (#48729263)
They ruled that this kind of search, going forward, is illegal. But this wasn’t clear at the time of the investigation, and the cops did what they genuinely thought was best practices for respecting the 4th amendment. So evidence in this case (and prior cases) is ok, but not in the future.