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Re:Stealing Is a Skill by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:21AM (#48660393)
I spent about a year copying pg’s site: https://github.com/shawwn/pg

Result: https://shawwn.github.io/pg/

If you think it’s easy, it’s not. The closer you want it to be pixel perfect, the exponentially harder it is to get right.

https://www.paulgraham.com/copy.html

I’m very proud of it. I had to dig through decades-old viaweb templates to figure out which one he used.

Re:Stealing Is a Skill by jmercouris on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @11:19AM (#48661301)
Why did you do this?
Re:Stealing Is a Skill by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @11:39AM (#48661575)
It was fun, and I like a challenge. I enjoy Lisp, and I retracing pg’s steps was gratifying.

Today most things are complex, and they don’t last very long. I wanted to pick apart something that’s lasted since the birth of the internet. Viaweb was, after all, the first web application.

Re:Stealing Is a Skill by zimpenfish on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @12:21PM (#48662159)
> Viaweb was, after all, the first web application.

According to pg who is an unreliable narrator at the best of times.

I'd say Navisoft[0] might be a better candidate.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaviSoft

Re:Stealing Is a Skill by nusl on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:23AM (#48660428)
In the age on LLMs it's definitely way easier than what you did.
Re:Stealing Is a Skill by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:26AM (#48660481)
No, it’s not. I used LLMs. It was still hard as fuck, and LLMs can’t actually help you when you’re trying to reproduce someone’s graphical design (specifically the pg buttons).

If you think it’s easy, or even possible without investing months, I invite you to try.

Re:Stealing Is a Skill by nusl on Thursday June 25, 2026 @06:08AM (#48671312)
Okay, I stand corrected. Apologies for making the assumptions I did.
Re:Stealing Is a Skill by parliament32 on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @02:13PM (#48663652)
Given the CLAUDE.md, you slopped it, so yes, it was easy. Don't take this as combative but.. if anyone has a right to be proud, it's Anthropic, you just paid them to make this for you.
Re:Stealing Is a Skill by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @06:18PM (#48666282)
Gosh hacker news is so disappointing nowadays. You show a project, you say hey, this is hard, I’m proud of it, and someone comes along and tells you that ackshually it was easy because you used a few prompts.

You have no idea. Try to redo what I did if you think it’s easy. No looking at my solutions either.

"You slopped it" should be bannable. In the overwhelming majority of cases, the author is wrong, it does nothing to further the conversation, and it’s a criticism that can be leveled at literally any project that isn’t concealing the fact that they’ve used AI when everyone uses AI now except for artisan work.

Go on, I dare you to try to redo what I did. You won’t even know where to start, since I had to buy a book from the 2000s on Viaweb and implement templates based on the contents. Now kindly leave me alone.

Re:Stealing Is a Skill by Petersipoi on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:52PM (#48666966)
So many people on HN don't understand coding with AI at all. I honestly think they just haven't done it. AI does not take the grind out of coding. Plain and simple. I've been working on a project in the evening for months with AI. Yet there are people on HN that think one-shotting a pong game is the same thing.
Re:Stealing Is a Skill by parliament32 on Thursday June 25, 2026 @01:33PM (#48676728)
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Re:Stealing Is a Skill by dang on Thursday June 25, 2026 @03:50PM (#48678355)
While I have you, would you please stop posting this type of comment? You've been doing it so excessively that it crosses into abuse of HN. Here is just one set of examples: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

There is room for a wide spectrum of opinions about AI on HN, as on any topic, but your comments on this are so repetitive that your account has practically turned into a single-purpose account, and we don't allow those here. Also, repetitive-indignant comments are the worst kind of HN comments. We want the opposite quadrant of that 2x2 matrix here.

Re:Stealing Is a Skill by dang on Thursday June 25, 2026 @03:48PM (#48678344)
This crosses into personal attack and is obviously against the site guidelines. You've been doing it in other threads too (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48223342). We ban accounts that do this, so please don't do it again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48678355 as well.